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Post by fredhutch on Feb 19, 2019 17:48:05 GMT
I've always been a big believer in Bob Hoffman's "1000 exercises" principle....lots of variation and variety, training from all angles, using different equipment, all with the goal of the best all around development. Vince Gironda also said you would never develop a good body with just a few exercises. Dr. Schwartz also talked about finding new movements, and if they make you sore he said that's good, you just found another weak spot in your body and now you're making it stronger.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 19, 2019 17:53:36 GMT
I couldn't wait. Recovery-schmecovery. I went ahead and did another upper body workout this morning. I really like this on your knees dumbbell thingy. I did 12 reps each of the front, side, and w. My shoulders really felt it. I didn't include the elbow back one because the wall triceps kickbacks that I do really hits the backs of your shoulders and back. I have at times listen to others that You only need a press. Actually, presses are a great shoulder exercise. George Eiferman was a big proponent of heavy presses for shoulders. But, again, they only hit your shoulders from one angle. One of the warm up exercises I do every morning is the good morning stretch. I really extend my arms way up and back when I do this and hold it for about 20 seconds. I can really feel it in my shoulders. think it's sort of an isometric press, so I've got that going. The good morning stretch also contributes to good posture.
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Post by Michael on Feb 19, 2019 18:53:01 GMT
Glad You like it Bruce. I do like the rear delt exercise. I feels better then bent over laterals to me. Do You feel more of a contraction with those exercises opposed to doing them standing?
What Fred says makes sense to me. I am pressing heavy for me KBs but these exercises round out my shoulder routine. When I had the Shoulder Solution book by Dr. Kirsha he had one doing front, side and bent laterals along with hanging.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 19, 2019 20:31:52 GMT
....... One of the warm up exercises I do every morning is the good morning stretch. I really extend my arms way up and back when I do this and hold it for about 20 seconds. I can really feel it in my shoulders. think it's sort of an isometric press, so I've got that going. The good morning stretch also contributes to good posture. I also do that stretch and follow it with a hang. That's my typical wake-up.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 20, 2019 15:17:15 GMT
I just thought of something. For the elbow back movement, you could include a triceps kickback.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 20, 2019 17:57:25 GMT
Just watched the video all the way through. Interesting. I like the way he alternates exercises within the set; Nick Nilsson does the same thing on some of his moves. I'm going to give this a go next shoulder workout and see how it goes. Thanks for posting that Michael.
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Post by Michael on Feb 20, 2019 22:02:33 GMT
I just thought of something. For the elbow back movement, you could include a triceps kickback. Nice Bruce! Never thought about doing that. I actually did the routine like You did today with 12 reps each. But I did all 4 exercises. I'm going to stick with this for a while because I like the feel of it and the way my shoulders feel.
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Post by trog on Feb 21, 2019 9:36:22 GMT
Last bight I tried the workout in the original video, and I found it hurt my wrists. Apart from that, it was a pretty good workout. Maybe I shouldn't have done the pull-ups/dips superset immediately before, although the dips don't cause the write problem, so it has to be down to the position. Next time, I'll try it lying face down on an inclined bench. This should allow the same motions and keep the weight off my wrists.
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Post by Michael on Feb 21, 2019 11:48:26 GMT
Last bight I tried the workout in the original video, and I found it hurt my wrists. Apart from that, it was a pretty good workout. Maybe I shouldn't have done the pull-ups/dips superset immediately before, although the dips don't cause the write problem, so it has to be down to the position. Next time, I'll try it lying face down on an inclined bench. This should allow the same motions and keep the weight off my wrists. <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 34.180000000000064px; height: 3.240000000000009px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none;left: 15px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_21904958" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: -5px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_65586682" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 15px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_99433653" scrolling="no"></iframe> <iframe width="34.180000000000064" height="3.240000000000009" style="position: absolute; width: 34.18px; height: 3.24px; z-index: -9999; border-style: none; left: 1638px; top: 102px;" id="MoatPxIOPT0_94213243" scrolling="no"></iframe> When I did it one exercise at a time I lifted my hands up between exercises.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 21, 2019 12:07:01 GMT
You could also try it with handles or on your fists, that would put your wrist into a similar position as the dips?
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 21, 2019 16:24:01 GMT
To hit the backs of your shoulders, you could do a lateral lift to the side with your palm facing to the rear rather than to the floor.
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Post by Michael on Feb 21, 2019 17:55:36 GMT
To hit the backs of your shoulders, you could do a lateral lift to the side with your palm facing to the rear rather than to the floor. That's a good idea. The rear delt row in the video could be done standing. You would probably have to use a little more weight.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 23, 2019 17:35:26 GMT
Did it this morning as part of shoulder day. Like it except the weight that's right for the front and side raises is way too light for his version of the rear delt raise. Next time I will position another heavier pair of DB's by my legs and switch to those for the rear delt.
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Post by Michael on Feb 23, 2019 21:23:13 GMT
I found the same thing Fred.
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Post by trog on Feb 25, 2019 9:15:29 GMT
I found it much better lying on the inclined bench. I agree with fred - you need dumbbells of different weights; very light the last exercise, and heavier for the lateral raise.
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