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Post by machinehead on Feb 13, 2019 14:59:12 GMT
"So, mice, who typically live less than two years, have a heart rate of about 500 to 600 beats a minute—up to 10 beats a second. In contrast, the heart of a Galapagos tortoise beats 100 times slower, but they live about 100 times longer. There’s such a remarkable consistency in the number of heartbeats animals get in their lifetimes that a provocative question was asked: “Can human life be extended by cardiac slowing?” In other words, if humans are predetermined to have about three billion heartbeats in a lifetime, then would a reduction in average heart rate extend life? This is not just some academic question. If that’s how it works, then one might estimate that a reduction in heart rate from an average of more than 70 beats per minute down to what many athletes have, 60 beats per minute, could theoretically increase life span by more than a decade."
Outside of other factors, like disease, for instance, this makes some bit of logical sense to me. Doesn't it?
"Olympic medalists live longer than the general population, according to a new study published in BMJ.
The researchers compared the longevity of medalists from different countries, disciplines of sport and amount of physical contact involved in the sport. Their nationality made almost no difference to their longevity, making the researchers believe they have a "survival advantage" because of meeting physical activity guidelines.
In the first study, a total of 15,174 Olympic athletes were tracked between 1896 and 2010. On average, they lived 2.8 years longer than the general population of the same age, gender and nationality. "
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 13, 2019 16:47:29 GMT
This doesn't make sense to me. Are they saying that an athletes average bpm over their lifetime is 60 bpm? If so, how did they determine this?
Heart rate increases with activity. Athletes do not have a 60 bpm rate when they are exercising. There must be more to it than an average allowance of three billion total beats for everyone?
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 13, 2019 17:55:26 GMT
Looks like Chimps have heart rates of about 120 bpm, the formula checks out so far
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Feb 13, 2019 23:01:24 GMT
Olympic athletes are normally just good physical specimens to begin with. I feel more of these statistics are determined by what people ARE rather than what they DO.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 14, 2019 16:46:10 GMT
Dr. Schwartz of HeavyHands fame had a resting heart rate of 38, and lived to be 84, if I remember correctly. Keep in mind that he had been a heavy smoker for many years, and I understand the current view is that smokers, even if they quit, carry that deficit with them for the rest of their lives, so that may account for his relatively early demise. He also only started serious exercise, I believe, in his 50's. Don't really know what conclusions to draw. Live your life to the fullest while you can, if nothing else.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Feb 15, 2019 9:51:08 GMT
Len Schwartz played a lot of sports growing up, was a competitive swimmer in high school and was also a WW II U.S. Navy Sea Bee. He never claimed to be the eternal 98 lb weakling. He started looking into healthy lifestyle a bit after he got married because as he states in this interview with Clarence Bass he thought his and his wife's genetics weren't that good. www.cbass.com/SchwartzInterview.htmLymphoma is what really slowed him down. groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.obituaries/1pTR8mvGdA0
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Post by Michael on Feb 15, 2019 16:33:42 GMT
Has anyone used heavy hands who has seen improvement in their heart rate? How many days a week did You do it?
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Post by DrunkenMonkey on Feb 15, 2019 18:02:10 GMT
This doesn't make sense to me. Are they saying that an athletes average bpm over their lifetime is 60 bpm? If so, how did they determine this? Heart rate increases with activity. Athletes do not have a 60 bpm rate when they are exercising. There must be more to it than an average allowance of three billion total beats for everyone? Exactly. Heart rates increase during exercise, so it's difficult to gauge an "average" heart rate for an active athlete. Also, Olympic athletes living 2.8 years longer than the average population is not very meaningful, when you consider that the "average" population is overweight and sedentary. Gotta take some time to parse out the "average" population a little bit more. My hypothesis is that olympic athletes don't live any longer than any other moderately active, non-overweight person.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 16, 2019 16:01:38 GMT
Can't remember what my heart rate was when I was a "pure" HeavyHander but I'm sure it was pretty low, around 50 or so. I haven't taken my pulse in years but did so last night out of curiosity, it's now 58, not bad...I will monitor it now and then.
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Post by Michael on Feb 16, 2019 16:10:59 GMT
Can't remember what my heart rate was when I was a "pure" HeavyHander but I'm sure it was pretty low, around 50 or so. I haven't taken my pulse in years but did so last night out of curiosity, it's now 58, not bad...I will monitor it now and then. How days a week did You do the HH? For how long each session? Thanks Fred. I've always been curious about the HH stuff.
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Post by fredhutch on Feb 16, 2019 16:27:49 GMT
Michael, as I remember I did HH every day, for half an hour to a full hour...remember I was in college then and didn't have anything to do! Seriously, HH is still one of the very best systems, in my opinion. Dr. Schwartz was probably one of the fittest men on the planet. I never worked up into the kind of workouts he was doing--pretty heavy weights for really long workouts (he mentions in his first book doing some two hour workouts). But, I'm still young and might do it yet.
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Post by stuke on Aug 24, 2020 22:24:28 GMT
Has anyone used heavy hands who has seen improvement in their heart rate? How many days a week did You do it? Resurecting a relatively old thread here, but this is something I have wondered about a lot over the years, ie resting heart rate and lifespan. I am also interested in Len Schwartz, HH but more so Pan X, having only recently heard of it (from this site). I am 46, exercised with weights for around 33 years. I have also cycled on and off over the years, specifically in my late teens to early 20s I would cycle hard 3 times a week or more, training with a Polar heart rate monitor and pushing myself pretty hard. Since then I have ridden with varying frequency, sometimes a few days a week from maybe 3-4 miles fast to up to 50 or 60 miles on a mountain bike here and there. To be honest though I don't do too many long rides at all these days. Anyway, my resting heart rate back then whilst working hard on the bike was low to mid 40s, and even now it is still around 44 bpm. I am intending on incorporating Pan X type exercising with the weights and some cycling plus cleaning up my diet to see if I can lower my heart rate into the 30s.
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Post by stuke on Aug 25, 2020 7:29:59 GMT
.. So following that lengthy post, I am trying to get more info on Pan X, I have read what I could find and last night I did a fairly quick session (bit of a tester, plus I had limited time) where I alternated the following with no rest inbetween:
Pull ups/squat as per Dr Schwartz Dip/squat as per Dr Schwartz Step ups with swinging arms and weights in hands/laterla raises Kettlebell swings
Did 3 rounds. Felt pretty good, not sure how fast I am supposed to bw doing them though I guess being able to control the speed and intensity is part of the benefit of doing this. Any suggestions, info, ideas for movements appreciated. I know this is sort of crossing over with other threads.
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.. So following that lengthy post, I am trying to get more info on Pan X, I have read what I could find and last night I did a fairly quick session (bit of a tester, plus I had limited time) where I alternated the following with no rest inbetween: Pull ups/squat as per Dr Schwartz Dip/squat as per Dr Schwartz Step ups with swinging arms and weights in hands/laterla raises Kettlebell swings Did 3 rounds. Felt pretty good, not sure how fast I am supposed to bw doing them though I guess being able to control the speed and intensity is part of the benefit of doing this. Any suggestions, info, ideas for movements appreciated. I know this is sort of crossing over with other threads. Target Heart Rate and Estimated Maximum Heart Rate | Physical Activity | CDC www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/measuring/heartrate.htm============================== Study: One type of exercise “reverses” aging’s effect on stem cells www.inverse.com/mind-body/exercise-can-rejuvenate-stem-cells============================== Goodbye Traditional Sets And Reps! – Get Pumped with EDT And Ladders faithandfitness.net/goodbye-traditional-sets-and-reps-get-pumped-with-edt-and-ladders/("Ladder sets" is the relevant content for u. Warm-up & gradual intensity is the intrinsic feature)
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Post by stuke on Aug 29, 2020 10:54:06 GMT
.. So following that lengthy post, I am trying to get more info on Pan X, I have read what I could find and last night I did a fairly quick session (bit of a tester, plus I had limited time) where I alternated the following with no rest inbetween: Pull ups/squat as per Dr Schwartz Dip/squat as per Dr Schwartz Step ups with swinging arms and weights in hands/laterla raises Kettlebell swings Did 3 rounds. Felt pretty good, not sure how fast I am supposed to bw doing them though I guess being able to control the speed and intensity is part of the benefit of doing this. Any suggestions, info, ideas for movements appreciated. I know this is sort of crossing over with other threads. Target Heart Rate and Estimated Maximum Heart Rate | Physical Activity | CDC www.cdc.gov/physicalactivity/basics/measuring/heartrate.htm============================== Study: One type of exercise “reverses” aging’s effect on stem cells www.inverse.com/mind-body/exercise-can-rejuvenate-stem-cells============================== Goodbye Traditional Sets And Reps! – Get Pumped with EDT And Ladders faithandfitness.net/goodbye-traditional-sets-and-reps-get-pumped-with-edt-and-ladders/("Ladder sets" is the relevant content for u. Warm-up & gradual intensity is the intrinsic feature) Thanks for the links. Nothing particularly new there to me, but interesting and I appreciate it.
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