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Post by stuke on Feb 26, 2024 22:38:22 GMT
I found this guy the other week, he has some interesting ideas, though only a few videos so far.
I tried the trap thing a couple of days ago, I did 700 reps I think, reasonably sore the next day but nothing special. Quite an unusual method though, caught my interest. Anyway, In one of his videos he talks about his time in prison (I know, you wouldn't think he had been in prison, looking at him, would you?) and how the other prisoners got in shape with partial reps, while he did his full reps and got nowhere near the gains.
Partial reps are nothing new, obviously, but there is a certain logic to it. Personally I think you could do well with a decent full range set with a heavier weight, then add a few lighter, partial rep sets to get that time under tension and pump. I'm always looking for other methods other than the old, keep adding more weight indefinitely progressive reaistance approach, which doesn't really agree with my joints any more.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 27, 2024 2:43:40 GMT
700 reps! Oh my! I would be sooooo bored, m8!
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Post by stuke on Feb 27, 2024 6:31:23 GMT
700 reps! Oh my! I would be sooooo bored, m8! I know! But these were super quick, almost 'twitches', eqch set of 100 took maybe 45 seconds, only about 20 seconds between sets, so it was pretty fast.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 27, 2024 12:47:00 GMT
700 reps! Oh my! I would be sooooo bored, m8! I know! But these were super quick, almost 'twitches', eqch set of 100 took maybe 45 seconds, only about 20 seconds between sets, so it was pretty fast. Ah, I see. Thanks! Very short ROM, quick pumps with focused tension. Good muscle-building exercise method! I do that at times. Perhaps I need to do it more. The effort reminds me a bit of twitching the Body Blade. (Maybe I should have watched that excellent video before I commented, but I was tired, m8.)
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Post by brothersteve on Feb 27, 2024 15:08:51 GMT
This is Matysek/Maxalding type muscle control stuff to me. I use this sometimes for all bodyparts on different days....hits the central nervous system if do too much and too hard. It works, but won't make you Arnold.
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Post by brothersteve on Feb 27, 2024 15:12:07 GMT
I know a guy who acts and talks like him. It takes time to get use to.
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Post by stuke on Feb 27, 2024 20:35:58 GMT
I know a guy who acts and talks like him. It takes time to get use to. He seems edgy, furtive even, like he is still behind bars, but I like him, he has nothing to sell, no personal training service etc. So far anyway. So he seems to be just wanting to gibe what he has learned, and maybe pick up a few likes.
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Post by stuke on Feb 27, 2024 20:46:48 GMT
I know! But these were super quick, almost 'twitches', eqch set of 100 took maybe 45 seconds, only about 20 seconds between sets, so it was pretty fast. Ah, I see. Thanks! Very short ROM, quick pumps with focused tension. Good muscle-building exercise method! I do that at times. Perhaps I need to do it more. The effort reminds me a bit of twitching the Body Blade. (Maybe I should have watched that excellent video before I commented, but I was tired, m8.) I don't think what he is saying is anything particularly new - is there anything new to discover anyway? I did another 600 today, took around a minute a set so I was slightly out with my estimation before. I varied the width of my grip and angle of lean slightly each set, wide seemed best. I could never see myself leaving full range reps out of a workout, but a set or two full range should be enough to ensure I keep that flexibility etc. I am long past trying to keep adding weight to the bar and beat my previous best, the joints don't like it, my recovery doesn't like it and with movements like deadlifts, I get strange pressure in my head if I start putting a decent amount of weight on the bar. But as I have probably said before, when you don't feel the need to constantly try to do better, it is pretty liberating.Not an excuse to work very hard, but no pressure and I can do what I like, look to these other methods a bit more. Besides, it is very difficult to gain much muscle this far into the game, but pretty easy to maintain so I can spend more time with more enjoyable movements and methods.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Feb 27, 2024 22:40:25 GMT
I had started watching his channel before this thread started. He has some good ideas, but nothing new. He may very well be reformed now, but in my experience, I have a hard time believing anything good about a person with facial tats.
Mr. P might like his walker video.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 28, 2024 0:57:41 GMT
I have a few walkers. I replaced the wheel leg sections with regular feet. The ID of the lower leg section is 1", so a length of 1" PVC pipe or other 1" ID pipe can be used to make legs that raises it up as high as you want as long as the walker remains stable. The tricky part is that the leg sections with wheels are a different length than the leg sections without wheels, so that is something to watch for.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Feb 28, 2024 7:54:37 GMT
with movements like deadlifts, I get strange pressure in my head if I start putting a decent amount of weight on the bar. Sounds like it could be caused by having to brace the core harder when lifting heavier. I mentioned the other week that the only times I've ever had a headache was when I had flu or with certain exercises. I did an 8 or 9 minute plank one day which was a lot longer than I had ever done before and got a nasty headache afterward. Also had headaches after body rows. I looked up info on it and one article said that it was more likely to happen with exercises where there's a lot of core bracing going on. I stopped doing body rows and long duration planks.
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Post by ilya on Feb 28, 2024 20:39:01 GMT
with movements like deadlifts, I get strange pressure in my head if I start putting a decent amount of weight on the bar. Sounds like it could be caused by having to brace the core harder when lifting heavier. I mentioned the other week that the only times I've ever had a headache was when I had flu or with certain exercises. I did an 8 or 9 minute plank one day which was a lot longer than I had ever done before and got a nasty headache afterward. Also had headaches after body rows. I looked up info on it and one article said that it was more likely to happen with exercises where there's a lot of core bracing going on. I stopped doing body rows and long duration planks. I can confirm this. Tensing my core, regardless of the exercise, greatly increases the odds that my head is gonna hurt. It also makes it much harder to breath, which probably contributes.
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Post by stuke on Feb 29, 2024 20:16:48 GMT
with movements like deadlifts, I get strange pressure in my head if I start putting a decent amount of weight on the bar. Sounds like it could be caused by having to brace the core harder when lifting heavier. I mentioned the other week that the only times I've ever had a headache was when I had flu or with certain exercises. I did an 8 or 9 minute plank one day which was a lot longer than I had ever done before and got a nasty headache afterward. Also had headaches after body rows. I looked up info on it and one article said that it was more likely to happen with exercises where there's a lot of core bracing going on. I stopped doing body rows and long duration planks. That sounds about right.When I think back to all the exercises that have caused these issues at some point, they were all relatively heavy and all compound movements where I would naturally need to be bracing my midsection. I imagine there is a degree of valsalva at some points, despite making efforts to breathe well. Deadlifts, rack pulls, squats, hang cleans, heavy step ups, leg press, bent over rows... Not every time, not by a long shot but sometimes. Any time I do bent over rows, I go faint, so I mostly avoid them now.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 29, 2024 23:07:41 GMT
Glen MacCharles got mad into high rep partial pressups for a while, I recall he posted a vide and admitted he thought he was doing something like half-reps but it was actually more like quarter reps or even less, he entered a strongman contest after only doing that for pressing strength and it seemed to work fine. Actually, I guess most guys who claim to do 1000 pressups a day or whatever are actually doing very short ROM but still get results.
At the other end, a lot of people in the past have made a big deal about full ROM for squats. But it's so rare in life to have to apply any force from squatting below parallel, I just suspect it's not got the best payoff for most.
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Post by stuke on Mar 1, 2024 7:54:06 GMT
Glen MacCharles got mad into high rep partial pressups for a while, I recall he posted a vide and admitted he thought he was doing something like half-reps but it was actually more like quarter reps or even less, he entered a strongman contest after only doing that for pressing strength and it seemed to work fine. Actually, I guess most guys who claim to do 1000 pressups a day or whatever are actually doing very short ROM but still get results. At the other end, a lot of people in the past have made a big deal about full ROM for squats. But it's so rare in life to have to apply any force from squatting below parallel, I just suspect it's not got the best payoff for most. i once had a disagreement with a guy in another forum, he did pull uos sternum (not upper chest) to the bar and said anything less is not a proper rep. I pointed out that to do that would greatly reduce reps, that very top part feels unnatural and like the benefit is not worth the trade off. I said so when you squat, do you do every rep with backside touching heels? How about deadlifts, do you stand on a block? Some do, and 8 have done plenty of one leg, backside to heel squats, but sometimes the range can feel like too much, like mechanically, when loaded with significant weight, it is not good for the joints/tendons etc. I agree with what yiu said about squats, and most movements in life do not require absolute full range of motion. Probably best to just use commn sense and incorporate a bit of both, or something inbetween.
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