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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 13:33:54 GMT
Something I've been doing again recently is high volume calisthenics and not counting reps but training until i feel the muscle tighten up and burn (failure) ! Our muscles don't count reps they grown from the tension that we place up on them ! So let's say we do 3 sets of 10 push ups but we feel like we could do 30 reps there will be no muscle stimulation which means no growth . What would be better is to stimulate that muscle by going to failure or at least 1 rep short of failure on ALL SETS ! This method ensures MAXIMUM GROWTH ! And let me tell u I've been doing this again for the past few weeks and the gains are unreal .
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2020 14:12:10 GMT
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jan 28, 2020 16:12:32 GMT
I like the idea of not counting, but I just can't stop myself doing it! The exception is if I am doing something a bit more complicated, like mace swinging say.
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Post by pierinifitness on Jan 28, 2020 17:09:35 GMT
I'm a counter; I count reps, load, recovery time, total volume reps and load, and lots of other stuff. Works for me but I understand how not counting can work too. You're counting something, though, increase in strength as evidenced by something or inches of new muscle added, weight gained or lost, otherwise, you're using perception and there's deception in perception.
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Post by Bob50 on Jan 28, 2020 17:37:56 GMT
I am with Baz. For me, the criterion to stop a self resistant set is the muscle burning/pain (the second type of failure?). It also provides good feedback without body overloading.
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Post by fredhutch on Jan 29, 2020 17:28:17 GMT
Bill "Huge" Davis sez: "If you can't feel the muscle working--it isn't"
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 1, 2020 22:05:29 GMT
DON'T COUNT REPS !!
Yes, but what if I want to, though.
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Post by mrdave100 on Feb 2, 2020 2:37:49 GMT
DON'T COUNT REPS !! Yes, but what if I want to, though. Well take off your shoes and socks and have at it. |
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Post by chanduthemagician on Feb 2, 2020 3:13:58 GMT
When I train to failure I count reps only to know how many it took until failure, but I don't stop at any prescribed number. Of course sometimes I decide to do a set with a minimum time target such as 60 or 90 seconds. If I don't make the minimum, I'll drop the weight a bit the next time I do the movement.
When on a strength cycle I do count reps and stop a whatever number I've programmed.
If you are training to failure there is certainly no need to count, especially if you are doing body-weight exercises. I think it does serve a purpose though if you log your workouts.
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Post by justregularguy on Feb 2, 2020 11:57:01 GMT
I don't count reps but I count weight if that makes sense. If you don't count either you obviously cannot measure your progress.
Different story when I do exercises where only one arm is involved. I then count reps to make sure both arms got the same work.
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Post by jrmeatplow on Feb 2, 2020 13:25:29 GMT
I like the concept. I've noticed that when I have a set number of reps in my head that I tend to just plow through them to get that to a certain number. I also find when I get close to that number I will be motoring good but when I hit that number its like someone shuts the power plant down.
The only weight upper body movement I'm doing right now is 2 Dumbbell Clean and Press, everything else is iso-strap and rings. I have a certain goal in my head for the DB C&P and it involves a rep count. But, with my calisthenics work I'm going to give this a go and focus on quality work and just be done when I'm done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:52:22 GMT
Bruce I'm not your dad if you want count reps crack on mate !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2020 14:53:24 GMT
Jmeatplow let us know how that goes for you mate
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 2, 2020 15:55:40 GMT
I don't count reps but I count weight if that makes sense. If you don't count either you obviously cannot measure your progress. Different story when I do exercises where only one arm is involved. I then count reps to make sure both arms got the same work. When I do alternating arm, DB, squat, clean and press, I start with the weaker side and end on the strong side. No counting required.Possibly, the closest I come to counting is when I play music while doing things like loaded, one arm, carries. I start and stop at the same mark to balance the effort, one side to the other. I usually have music of some kind playing when I exercise, so, although I have no plan or goal to achieve, I have a general sense of the time under tension. Like Fred posted earlier in this thread; I don't time myself or count contractions when I piss or shit, since I can feel when I need to go and when I'm done. I eliminate when I feel the pressure. Same idea as "eat when hungry, drink when thirsty, sleep when tired." I have the same philosophy with exercise. IMO, After a few years of exercising, anyone who is paying attention to what their body is doing can feel when their muscles/tendons have had enough to obtain the bodily response that they intend, whether that is maintenance, growth, progress or just pure enjoyment. |
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Post by justregularguy on Feb 3, 2020 11:13:59 GMT
Exactly that. When I have a set number of reps in my head, I do the reps sloppy, with bad form or way too fast just for the sake of hitting that number.
I realized that this approach doesn't work for me. I rather do the reps slowly and controlled. When the exercise feels too easy, I add weight. Now that's something I measure and remember. For me everything revolves around moving the most weight possible, in a safe and controlled way without hurting myself. That's why I don't do 1-rep max.
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