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Post by HHEnthusiast2 on Jan 20, 2019 15:46:20 GMT
Where are the Bruce Lee's, Einsteins or Tesla's of our era? I mean, is there anyone? I wish there was more pioneers and freethinkers. I believe society and school systems kinda keep those people down. Many people are very good in certain aspects but they never get to reach their full potential. It's like their wings were tore before they had the chance to soar. I don't wanna know how many genius people could potentially invent crazy shit for us that would benefit our whole species, but nobody ever recognized their talent and helped to develop it. Those people are out there, they exist. They probably sucked in school and thought "well shit, I'm dumb, I'm not going anywhere in life, it is how it is" and work a bang average office job or stack shelves in your local super market. Albert Einstein wasn't a good student either. When will we realize that our school system sucks, always had sucked and forever will suck unless we change something. Jesus christ. They should focus more on people's strength and develop those instead of discouraging people with their very limited amount of subjects. You are kinda forced to "break out" like Zuckerberg did when he dropped everything, quit school and focused solely on facebook. Not everyone will do that though. They will learn something "normal" that's respected and appreciated within their family and friends circle and become lawyers, doctors even though they could be far more successful somewhere else. Also agree, good post! My wife used to get upset with me as when people asked what I learned in college I always said...How to take test! Then they would ask what does that mean..I answered: I figured out what answer they wanted parroted back so I could easily pass their test and move on to graduation with a good GPA. It does seem the free thinking and critical thing and reasoning has gone by the wayside!
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Post by fredhutch on Jan 20, 2019 17:43:12 GMT
All schools teach the same subject: conformity.
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Post by fastfor40 on Jan 20, 2019 20:42:06 GMT
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Post by fastfor40 on Jan 20, 2019 20:46:55 GMT
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Post by fastfor40 on Jan 20, 2019 20:48:07 GMT
Bruce Lee and Robin fought to a draw in "Batman," and Robin was no slouch as he was undefeated before this skirmish.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 21, 2019 14:33:56 GMT
Bruce Lee and Robin fought to a draw in "Batman," and Robin was no slouch as he was undefeated before this skirmish. PROOF! It's official! A media sanctioned match between Robin and Bruce Lee which ended in a draw because, of course, NO ONE can beat Robin in an MMA match! OK, I'm being facetious. He was marketed as a 'great martial artist' and competitive fighter and for most of my life, I assumed that he was, but I cannot find anywhere, that at any time, Bruce Lee fought in a real MMA competitive fight. Just the hear-say Wong Jack Man story that has no verifiable documentation like photos or vids that clearly show Bruce in the fight. In the videos I've seen of him, he wears a helmet, so that's not MMA and it doesn't confirm that it's even Bruce. Is any of this important anyway? Probably not, but I've heard, in person, very smart exercise guru people say that Bruce Lee was a 'great martial artist' and they become quite enraged when I suggest that there is no real evidence that Bruce fought anyone in a real MMA match competition. He was a decent, energetic, entertaining and skilled, stunt actor and, IMO, was a front-runner in the the promotion of martial arts, plus he changed the minds of many about discrimination. EDIT: He also exercised a lot, had himself in, apparently, good shape, taught others how to exercise and repeated some cool stuff that had been said by many Asian philosophers, many years before. He just never fought in any official MMA fight, anywhere, and that's OK.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 21, 2019 15:29:48 GMT
I do like and admire Bruce Lee, but here's a guy who is documented to have actually fought in real MMA fights: Chuck Norris:
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Post by billfish on Jan 21, 2019 15:46:42 GMT
Bruce Lee and Robin fought to a draw in "Batman," and Robin was no slouch as he was undefeated before this skirmish. PROOF! It's official! A media sanctioned match between Robin and Bruce Lee which ended in a draw because, of course, NO ONE can beat Robin in an MMA match! OK, I'm being facetious. He was marketed as a 'great martial artist' and competitive fighter and for most of my life, I assumed that he was, but I cannot find anywhere, that at any time, Bruce Lee fought in a real MMA competitive fight. Just the hear-say Wong Jack Man story that has no verifiable documentation like photos or vids that clearly show Bruce in the fight. In the videos I've seen of him, he wears a helmet, so that's not MMA and it doesn't confirm that it's even Bruce. Is any of this important anyway? Probably not, but I've heard, in person, very smart exercise guru people say that Bruce Lee was a 'great martial artist' and they become quite enraged when I suggest that there is no real evidence that Bruce fought anyone in a real MMA match competition. He was a decent, energetic, entertaining and skilled, stunt actor and, IMO, was a front-runner in the the promotion of martial arts, plus he changed the minds of many about discrimination. EDIT: He also exercised a lot, had himself in, apparently, good shape, taught others how to exercise and repeated some cool stuff that had been said by many Asian philosophers, many years before. He just never fought in any official MMA fight, anywhere, and that's OK. Brings to mind an "Internationally recognized strength and fitness coach".....who most of the world has never heard of
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 21, 2019 16:00:39 GMT
...... Brings to mind an "Internationally recognized strength and fitness coach".....who most of the world has never heard of Ah, yes, and that is in contrast to the Bruce Lee religion which is known by millions, world-wide, and so effective that many actually believe he was a champion martial artist! The difference between the two is that Bruce Lee understood what is required for effective marketing for his products. He produced the right hype in his time for his promotions to be successful. EDIT: Oh, and when Bruce would announce he was writing a book, it would appear on store shelves within a few weeks afterward if there was any delay at all?
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Post by justregularguy on Jan 21, 2019 16:01:10 GMT
Bruce Lee could fight. His timing, speed and precision was outstanding. I mean look that jab. Keep in mind this was only friendly sparring.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 21, 2019 17:01:35 GMT
From that video above, it is evident that Bruce Lee had that quality known as "ring mastery"
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 21, 2019 18:12:13 GMT
I have much respect and awe for what Bruce Lee did and said and I like his movies. This thread has inspired me to watch them again. Would he have won a real MMA tournament match if he had ever entered one? Possibly. It's also possible he would have lost. I think he was wise not to compete. Can't lose if one doesn't compete. It keeps his mystique alive, protects his martial artist acting career and, since he was never tested, his church full of believers.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 21, 2019 20:53:22 GMT
I Believe! Praise Bruce! I Believe!
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Post by justregularguy on Jan 22, 2019 12:37:03 GMT
I have much respect and awe for what Bruce Lee did and said and I like his movies. This thread has inspired me to watch them again. Would he have won a real MMA tournament match if he had ever entered one? Possibly. It's also possible he would have lost. I think he was wise not to compete. Can't lose if one doesn't compete. It keeps his mystique alive, protects his martial artist acting career and, since he was never tested, his church full of believers. I'm 100% sure he would've become a MMA fighter if it actually existed back then. Fighting was his passion, acting payed the bills.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 22, 2019 19:37:21 GMT
I have much respect and awe for what Bruce Lee did and said and I like his movies. This thread has inspired me to watch them again. Would he have won a real MMA tournament match if he had ever entered one? Possibly. It's also possible he would have lost. I think he was wise not to compete. Can't lose if one doesn't compete. It keeps his mystique alive, protects his martial artist acting career and, since he was never tested, his church full of believers. I'm 100% sure he would've become a MMA fighter if it actually existed back then. Fighting was his passion, acting payed the bills. Others competed in martial arts full contact events. Chuck Norris has a tournament record? Bruce could have, but he did not.
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