TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 19, 2017 20:14:38 GMT
I saw a review of a new protocol for the treatment of Alzheimer's in the medical news recently and there's an interview with the MD that created the approach on Dr. Oz's website. www.aging-us.com/papers/v6/n9/full/100690.htmlwww.doctoroz.com/episode/controversial-doctor-who-claims-he-can-reverse-alzheimer-s?video_id=5609475094001In case anyone has a family member or friend that may be affected by this disease, wanted to pass on this information as it appears to have some incredible promise without the expense and risks of many of the pharma-based approaches. One thing that was of interest to me was the new approach in the work by the UCLA team lead by Dr. Bredesen: instead of treating the 'plaque' associated with Alzheimer's as the cause, treat it as the symptom. That is, why is the plaque forming and their belief it it is a protective response to inflammation via a bad diet (processed foods, sugars, overeating), stress, lack of exercise and other factors. Also of interest is the use of Intermittent Fasting ... something Dr. Mark Mattson from Johns Hopkins has been advocating for nearly 17 years. It didn't appear to benefit more advanced patients, but, did it slow or halt the progression? Cannot find that information.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 19, 2017 22:30:39 GMT
Inflammation is also implicated in eff-ing cancer. Moreover, fasting is touted to moderate cancer's effects . Perhaps, the Alzheimer's protocol can be applied to other diseases of aging .
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 19, 2017 23:45:02 GMT
Inflammation is also implicated in eff-ing cancer. Moreover, fasting is touted to moderate cancer's effects . Perhaps, the Alzheimer's protocol can be applied to other diseases of aging . Read The Plant Paradox by Dr. Steven Gundry, MD. He cites the use of his diet by patients with cancer to halt the disease. Not 1:1 with the UCLA Alzheimer's diet, but, a number of similarities: 1. High in vegetables. 2. No processed foods. Sugars, grains, transfats. 3. No fruits. He cites apes uses fruit (sugars) to fatten up; also discusses the role of fructose and cancer. 4. Low in protein to keep IGF-1 levels down. 5. Intermittent Fasting on a regular basis. 6. Grains are banned. I believe MCT oils are also recommended.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 11:03:13 GMT
Inflammation is also implicated in eff-ing cancer. Moreover, fasting is touted to moderate cancer's effects . Perhaps, the Alzheimer's protocol can be applied to other diseases of aging . One thing that continues to be ignored: there's an overwhelming amount of information, evidence and peer-reviewed studies that shows a vegan diet can work wonders with regards to halting cancer. For example, this is pretty straightforward information: nutritionfacts.org/video/how-not-to-die-from-cancer/ This is one of hundreds...probably thousands...of links and references that I could include. And if MDs, including endocrinologists like Ron Rosedale and cardiologists such as Gundry, are advising lower amounts of animal proteins = lower IGF-1 = reduced factors associated with cancer, just like the video, there's got to be a baseline to start from.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 13:39:44 GMT
Dr John Kelly , Stop Feeding Your Cancer, suggests avoiding any animal product with the exception of fish . His thesis is based on observational evidence from his primary care medical practice .
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 14:53:21 GMT
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 15:08:51 GMT
Cancer advice is often contradictory - eg the Thomas Seyfried keto diet vs Dr McDougall's dietary advice ( perhaps a plant based Keto diet can reconcile the apparent contradiction) . In any case, many thanks for providing the anticancer links.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 20, 2017 15:19:16 GMT
Dr John Kelly , Stop Feeding Your Cancer, suggests avoiding any animal product with the exception of fish . His thesis is based on observational evidence from his primary care medical practice . Thank you for posting this, grunt. Here's an interesting interview. I agree with what he says about the understanding of modern conventional Big Medicine/Big Pharma:
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Post by stormshadow on Oct 20, 2017 15:32:00 GMT
TR thank you very much for the info. Totally agree with this too:
"One thing that continues to be ignored: there's an overwhelming amount of information, evidence and peer-reviewed studies that shows a vegan diet can work wonders with regards to halting cancer."
This is why. My father and his two brothers died of prostate cancer. Brother 1 died at 75 years of age, big meat eater. Lots of prosciutto, salami, pepperoni and other lunch and deli meats in addition to red meat and pork. Not keen on veggies or fruit. Liked to walk.
Brother number 2, died at 85, he had large garden and loved fruits and vegetables but also liked meat like brother 1 above. Active worker and relatively active.
Brother number 3, died at 98 years of age. Almost complete vegetarian. Did not like meat. He did have plenty of milk, cheese and eggs. Not a Vegan. Would have meat maybe twice per week in very small quantities. I asked him why. He said he did not like eating dead things. He wanted things that contained the sun's energy (and chlorophyll) and he also had huge garden. Loved to eat fruit and veggies. For the last most of his life he would eat 5 to 8 apples a day (as one example) He said if one apple a day kept the doctor away, he wanted to kill the doctor (jokingly meaning he would not make money from his medical practice and starve and not actually kill him) Also, during WW II my dad smoked unfiltered Camels. He did for 20 years. When I was about to come into this world, the Doc told him it would be nice for your son if he grew up in a smoke free home. He quit that day. Talk about will power. Never smoked again. Also, evidence that you can detox your body if not too late and you have not harmed it yet permanently.
He did no formal workouts, but was very active and loved to work outside. He called me Mr Artificial Muscles because I loved weights and gyms and other things like that. He had incredible strength. He could crack walnuts with his hands. I am a grip training afficianado and can only bust one every now and then (probably ones that are on the verge of rotting) He could also do rafter grip pinch grip chins on the 2 by 6 s on the basement ceiling. Like ten to fifteen of them. I got to where I could do 25 to 30 pullups and chins, but never could do a pinch grip rafter chin. He would tell me that my Artificial muscles were uselessly weighing me down.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 20, 2017 17:38:31 GMT
Plenty of meat eaters live to a very old age. Most people including some of the people on here that rattle on about vegetarian and vegan diets can't even stick to a vegetarian diet for more than a few weeks anyway. What is in meat that isn't in milk and eggs that is supposedly so harmful anyway?
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 17:52:41 GMT
Perhaps genetic differences can explain the differing dietary longevity results . I'd guess in addition to favorable genetics , active lifestyles well beyond formal exercise aid in longevity . I further speculate that one thing in common among the meat eaters and vegetarians is minimized consumption of processed food.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 20, 2017 17:58:55 GMT
It depends on the source (wild, farm or whatever) of the meat, IMO. I've come to believe that consistently eating regular meat fare from the grocer is deadly. And, deli meat isn't even meat anymore after it's been processed. It's just a collection of chemicals w/ some protein.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 18:03:44 GMT
More longevity speculation : HOOK users will achieve impressive longevity no matter what they eat
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 20, 2017 18:09:02 GMT
I eat deli meat so rarely and in such small quantities when I do that it really wouldn't make any difference if I avoided it completely. I'll just have a taste of it if I'm offered it.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 18:38:39 GMT
Perhaps genetic differences can explain the differing dietary longevity results . I'd guess in addition to favorable genetics , active lifestyles well beyond formal exercise aid in longevity . I further speculate that one thing in common among the meat eaters and vegetarians is minimized consumption of processed food. The seminars and lectures I have attended, where genetics come up, have offered this: our genetics are typically triggered and respond to bad food, smoking and pollution. One of the more obvious markers -- telomeres -- shorten in response to high protein diets, junk food, smoking, etc. Another marker is IGF-1 surge before/after eating a meal full of protein (milk and protein powders create the biggest responses) and/or junk/processed foods. But back to the seminars and lectures along with books, etc., have all shown the higher the % your "diet" is in plant foods and lower in animal foods (of any kind), the mortality risks all go down. Forget junk or processed foods as most here probably don't indulge much. Keep in mind: active lifestyles and exercise don't necessarily aid in longevity. One example: we probably all remember the late Jim Fixx. Died of a massive heart attack while running. (He also played tennis, etc.) Dr. Ken Cooper (the father of aerobics) told me while on sitting next to him on a plane flight (!!!) that he had warned Fixx, following a physical at the Cooper Aerobics Center, that he needed to see a cardiologist for a full blown diagnosis to include a possible angiogram based on what they had detected. Fixx had a steak for dinner one evening, took off on a long run and passed away. Diet is probably 90 - 95% of it for the vast majority of us, whether it is heart disease, Type II diabetes or even cancer. MDs from Dr. Mark Hyman (author of Eat Fat Get Thin, notes +85% of heart disease is diet induced) to Joel Fuhrman (vegan) are pretty much in agreement on this.
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