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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 18, 2017 13:01:42 GMT
it's certainly very interesting, thanks for the free ebook Pete! I wonder if there is a way to implement this without all the "bouncy bars" and equipment? Me too. My brain is percolating in the background on this question and, if I come up w/ something, I'll post it. Maybe Bruce could design a The Hook tool to secure grip for extended hangs that would perform better than the Cobra Grips? I figure all I need is a way to hang freely by one or both arms. Currently, I plan to buy a pair of Cobra Grips as gruntbud suggested and continue to hang from my pullup bar or a handle hooked to playground equipment. I don't think it needs to be a special, purpose built structure to gain the benefit of hanging freely by one or both arms. It's the hang that's important, not the tool - which, of course, is what you're saying. My understanding is that, thousands(?) of years ago, monks would eliminate grip strength somewhat from the equation by tying each other to suspended hooks or something to prolong hangs. I don't recall if they hung right side up, but I assume they would have figured that out. I do remember seeing an illustration of them hanging upside down, which would include the neck part of the spine in the stretch - not included when hanging by arm(s). Inversion boots are a way to do this and I've hung freely upside down from my inversion table, pivoting and twisting from my ankles. I think that would work much the same way.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 18, 2017 13:48:47 GMT
Inversion hanging : anchor a comfortable sling( eg a double ended military duffel bag) to a chinup bar( or ....) . Abjust the height to accommodate being suspended by your hips .
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 18, 2017 14:07:20 GMT
Since my wrists are skinny/boney, I've found straps to be quite uncomfortable and the pain distracts me from enjoying the hang. Currently, I've found the rubber-faced garden gloves to be the most helpful while maintaining comfort. The only body-part specific exercise I do is to strengthen my grip/wrists/forearms beyond what the hanging, loaded carries and other stuff does that incidentally works grip. This is why I carry a gripper tool and my forearm blaster twisty thing with me everywhere I go. even so, I would like to have grip assistance that is comfortable and will immediately release when I let go. Pete made some straps that work for him w/ some rubber cement or something on the face of the straps which seems to help his grip, but I want something that is comfortable on my wrists which is why the Cobra Grips are attractive to me and straps are not. The Cobra Grips appear to be padded for maximum comfort.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 18, 2017 14:16:03 GMT
Pete's information has been interesting as we've seen in earlier videos, he was a pretty jacked dude and --apologies if I'm incorrect -- while using steroids for a while. But, if I'm understanding his approach he's adopted the newer methods we've seen in recent videos, and, retained a pretty impressive physique without continuing to hammer out the weights, etc. The "chest" video that was AMM is another Bruce's equipment could be used for?
Kudos to "the" Mr. Mikey as he brought Pete's information to light on the AMM board and I've actually started using a bit of the technique with my TRX and chinning bar while I'm at home, or, the iso-bow or hotel gym while I'm on the road. Just a minute or two here or there when I remember to do it. The main thing I can report is TAKE YOUR TIME...for those of us with years of lifting under our belts, this is a whole new experience vs. yoga or John Parrillo's old fascia stretching.
Pete - Thanks for posting the free book and accompanying video.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 18, 2017 14:19:40 GMT
I've still got my old weight lifting straps which I'll use, but, I'm nowhere near the levels of intensity that Pete or you are using at this point. A few minutes...just baby steps...2 - 3x/week. With the right biceps tear several years ago and who knows what else, just a small steps.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 18, 2017 14:59:32 GMT
The Sierra Strap's loops provide grip assistance ; place loops around your wrists for maximum intensity pulling isometrics and isotonics . Optionally add padding around your wrists for comfort. In any case, with any form of grip assistance you'll likely be very impressed with your increased hang times and increased pulling lifts.
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Post by DDH on Oct 18, 2017 15:11:41 GMT
I like Pete's videos, he's got some good information in them,I downloaded his book last night and started reading it,and so far I really like ,it has some great information,thank you Pete.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 18, 2017 15:12:53 GMT
My first recollection of a mention of high bar hangs was by grunt several years ago, so grunt is my Hang Master and Latex Salesman. He's probably been doing hangs since before I was born. Didn't think much about it at the time, but did try it. Then one of my shoulder injuries brought a mention by Bruv of how hangs helped him or his wife or somebody and that was when I began to do it, but not consistently until I heard, first Matt Schifferle talk about hangs and then the Joe Rogan podcast w/Steve Maxwell sometime last year, I think. Yeah, easing into it is a good idea. Pete doesn't really talk about that much, but I suppose he's used to doing it and may not see it anymore from a relatively newbie perspective.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 18, 2017 15:17:26 GMT
Straps allowed me to increase the amount I was deadlifting and with pulldowns years ago. A smart thing? Dunno...some of the first injuries started popping up when I was using more weight with various lifts than I was 'naturally' able to handle when I started using straps, wraps and even the small doses of creatine.
There's probably a natural fail safe built into our bodies to prevent injury and our egos are looking for ways to over-ride that mechanism such as artificially overcoming your grip strength with straps so you can put more strain on your elbows and back.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 18, 2017 16:02:53 GMT
At least with Trap Bar deadlifts taken at just above knee level, most of the strain is with my quads . I also believe grip assistance provides a margin of safety( eg not dropping the weight especially with lifts taken from ground level) . All that said, most experts disagree .
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 18, 2017 16:29:08 GMT
At least with Trap Bar deadlifts taken at just above knee level, most of the strain is with my quads . I also believe grip assistance provides a margin of safety( eg not dropping the weight especially with lifts taken from ground level) . All that said, most experts disagree . Not an expert at all, but, I'd have to disagree. I had an ortho tell me after a shoulder or knee visit that what we're doing with our bodies via much of weight lifting is very much against the natural design and flow of human biomechanics. Reseacher Frank Forencich comments in Play As If Your Life Depends on it, you'll never see a Bushman or similar people doing repetitive exercises in a stationary manner; Loren Cordain, in one of his Paleo books, quotes another researcher who spent time with a hunter-gatherer tribe who said he was thankful that he had been a runner and already somewhat active as he could barely hang with the hunting group when they went out in search of game. Our sedentary approach to fitness has little resemblance to our more primal peers.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 18, 2017 16:55:24 GMT
I'm up to begin page 45 of Pete's book and loving it. So far, I especially enjoyed the confirmation I received from reading pp 34 & 35. Good shit!
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Oct 18, 2017 19:54:51 GMT
I'm up to begin page 45 of Pete's book and loving it. So far, I especially enjoyed the confirmation I received from reading pp 34 & 35. Good shit! I totally agree. Those two pages sum up everything quite well. Even drudgery is mentioned!
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Post by fatjake on Oct 18, 2017 19:58:00 GMT
but let's be honest, most people - apart perhaps from old farts like us - train for big guns and to look good, they don't give a fuck about being able to hunt like bushmen and they don't care if our ancestors never did repetitive exercises. They certainly dont train to look like bushmen, you can get that look easily enough by not eating very much
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 18, 2017 21:19:09 GMT
I'm up to begin page 45 of Pete's book and loving it. So far, I especially enjoyed the confirmation I received from reading pp 34 & 35. Good shit! I totally agree. Those two pages sum up everything quite well. Even drudgery is mentioned!
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