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Post by fatjake on Oct 11, 2017 11:10:38 GMT
"Delicious"? It is to me, maybe someone else would think it tastes like shit, but I don't think so. It tastes great to me as long as I keep it cold and use by date. You can read all about Oscar Mayer Natural Uncured Bacon (no added nitrates or nitrites, which is one big reason why I make that compromise) and its ingredients HERE. Oscar Mayer Natural Uncured Bacon does have added nitrites m8, just not "chemical" ones, they list the ingredients in the link you provided so in summary, all bacon is cured otherwise it's not bacon, plus nitrites seem to be always added, either using the chemical kind or a "natural" alternative such as celery extracts (as in the case of Oscar mayer Bacon with "Cultured Celery Juice") I'm not surprised it's delicious, it's just the same as normal bacon Celery has a very high concentration of natural nitrate, and treating celery juice with a bacterial culture produces nitrite. The concentrated juice can then be used to produce “no nitrite added” processed meat. Curiously, regulations stipulate that the traditional curing process requires the addition of nitrite and thus “organic” processed meats that are treated with celery juice have to be labeled as “uncured.”
Such terminology is confusing because most consumers look to “organic” processed meats in order to avoid nitrites, but the fact is that these do contain nitrites, sometimes in lesser, sometimes in greater amounts than found in conventional products. That’s because the amount of nitrite that forms from nitrate in celery juice is hard to monitor, while in conventionally cured processed meats, the addition of nitrite is strictly controlled by regulations designed to minimize nitrosamine formation and maximize protection against botulism. This means any risk due to nitrosamine formation or bacterial contamination in the “organic” version is more challenging to evaluate. So what does all of this mean? Basically, that buying “organic” hot dogs or bacon with a view towards living longer by avoiding nitrites makes no sense. blogs.mcgill.ca/oss/2013/04/04/is-celery-juice-a-viable-alternative-to-nitrites-in-cured-meats/
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 11, 2017 13:48:59 GMT
Oscar Mayer Natural Uncured Bacon does have added nitrites m8, just not "chemical" ones, they list the ingredients in the link you provided Thanks for keeping me safe, m8! I'm aware of nitrate in celery and lettuce and have assumed that the nitrate contributed to the OM bacon would not be harmful like the lab chemical nitrates/nitrites normally used in pork. Now I'm wondering if I've been betrayed by cunning marketing. Shit. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'm going to check into this.
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Post by fatjake on Oct 11, 2017 15:14:48 GMT
Oscar Mayer Natural Uncured Bacon does have added nitrites m8, just not "chemical" ones, they list the ingredients in the link you provided Thanks for keeping me safe, m8! I'm aware of nitrate in celery and lettuce and have assumed that the nitrate contributed to the OM bacon would not be harmful like the lab chemical nitrates/nitrites normally used in pork. Now I'm wondering if I've been betrayed by cunning marketing. Shit. Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I'm going to check into this. if you find out about the nitrite in celery concentrates then please post the information here I cant find anything conclusive at all, the nitrates/nitrites in vegetables dont seem to be harmful at all when eaten as a whole vegetable, but if you extract those nitrites via an industrial process and concentrate them to produce almost pure nitrites (like with "cultured celery juice") I have no idea if that is harmful or not. But if I had to guess I would say yes, as with any highly processed food, its almost always worse for you. I doubt it matters too much unless you are eating a shitload of bacon, I just eat the "real" stuff once a week or so and I doubt its doing me much harm
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 11, 2017 15:26:45 GMT
I cant find anything conclusive at all, the nitrates/nitrites in vegetables dont seem to be harmful at all when eaten as a whole vegetable, but if you extract those nitrites via an industrial process and concentrate them to produce almost pure nitrites (like with "cultured celery juice") I have no idea if that is harmful or not. But if I had to guess I would say yes, as with any highly processed food, its almost always worse for you.
I understand and I agree. Thanks again.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 11, 2017 15:43:15 GMT
HERE - is an article that seems decent.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 11, 2017 16:03:46 GMT
Just pay the farmer not the food processor
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 11, 2017 19:03:57 GMT
Getting back to the original thread, I just made another one after my workout.
I've read that it's a good idea to do some protein after a workout, so I think I'll continue doing this. Takes a minute to make and it's all natural, healthy ingredients - no additives. What can be better than that, other than a night in bed with Margo Robbie?
Hint: To thoroughly blend the egg with the milk, stir vigorously with a fork for a goodly amount of time.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 12, 2017 9:52:53 GMT
While digging around for some information to follow up on the Art of Manliness recovery article, I also found this video from Brad which shows the disadvantages of a pre- or post-workout drink. Insulin levels go up, the Growth Hormone's affected. Surprisingly fat had a greater affect than I recall. And, I think I've mentioned Art Devany's rants against the pre- and post-workout drink myth previously and his calling out the lies that have been perpetuated by the supplement companies.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 10:02:49 GMT
I don't time meals according to, well, anything. If I'm hungry, I eat. However, I do enjoy working out w/o a full load in my stomach.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 12, 2017 19:47:43 GMT
I don't time meals according to, well, anything. If I'm hungry, I eat. However, I do enjoy working out w/o a full load in my stomach. I can't workout on an empty stomach. I have a banana 20 minutes, or so, before working out.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 21:01:02 GMT
I don't time meals according to, well, anything. If I'm hungry, I eat. However, I do enjoy working out w/o a full load in my stomach. I can't workout on an empty stomach. I have a banana 20 minutes, or so, before working out. I sometimes have an apple or a piece of fruit leather or dried pears (the home made ones I have taste like Vanilla Wafers - damn I miss those SOBs, but now, w/ the dried pears, those Vanilla Wafers can kiss my ass).
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 12, 2017 23:30:40 GMT
It works for me...I've tossed cookies in the past if I eat before I work out. Maybe it is my body cleansing itself so I can get the full benefit of growth hormone...
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 12, 2017 23:49:39 GMT
I don't need to do anything physical at all. I could lay on the couch, eat cookies and puke with regularity. I can't tolerate them anymore. Give me real food!
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 31, 2017 16:54:57 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 31, 2017 18:20:54 GMT
What?? Clarence Bass has new arteries?!
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