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Post by Magnus on Mar 21, 2023 23:59:39 GMT
Excellent info as usual from one of my favorite trainers ! |
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Post by determinator on Mar 22, 2023 0:56:51 GMT
Here is one that I like to do: I'll have to try this with my legs up and bent, as shown in the video. I've been doing it with my legs bent, but feet on the floor. Another tip is to push the KB out and make sure your arms are straight when it is near the floor behind you, if you choose to do the pullover with straight arms. |
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Post by Magnus on Mar 22, 2023 3:15:42 GMT
A heavy steel club is usually what I reach for when doing pullovers. They can be done with either one or two hands...
Two Hand Pullover:
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Post by Magnus on Mar 22, 2023 3:16:24 GMT
Single Hand Alternating 180 degree Pullover:
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 22, 2023 8:54:34 GMT
Here is one that I like to do: I’ve never seen them done that particular way, is there any increased benefit to the ‘opposite’ breathing pattern that he’s using ? I noticed his highlight of 'opposite' breathing too. No way would I breathe like that. Just asking for trouble, IMO, especially if you've had hernia issues. I just breathe freely and naturally on all exercises. For example, exhaling on a heavy lift suits me best. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 10:58:10 GMT
Here is one that I like to do: I’ve never seen them done that particular way, is there any increased benefit to the ‘opposite’ breathing pattern that he’s using ? I have tried breathing both ways and I really don't see a difference. Mikey may have a good point but I never felt anything different breathing either way. I mostly use this as an ab exercise so I don't use a heavy KB. You could probably figure this out for Yourself but there are ways to make it easier and harder. Someone could do like determinater said with knees bent and feet flat on the floor to make it easier. Or it could be done like a dead bug but just move the legs. Or just the legs held straight like a hollow body hold. |
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Post by determinator on Mar 22, 2023 13:32:59 GMT
I was doing the straight-arm version with a barbell when I was about 15 years old, having purchased my first weight set when I was 14. I did them on the floor with a barbell, legs straight out in front. I got up to about 75 lbs. for a max single. My grandpa had given me a book called "Super Strength" by Alan Calvert, which I still have. He never talked about working out with weights when he was younger, but he had the old book that he gave me. The pullover was discussed in that book, published in 1924. That book got me started on how to use my first weight set.
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Post by Magnus on Mar 22, 2023 20:01:58 GMT
... My grandpa had given me a book called "Super Strength" by Alan Calvert, which I still have. He never talked about working out with weights when he was younger, but he had the old book that he gave me. The pullover was discussed in that book, published in 1924. That book got me started on how to use my first weight set.Way back in the day those old books were worth their weight in gold, the info contained within their pages was most definitely the key to getting good results in the shortest amount of time. The book that I purchased from a school 'book fair' when I first started lifting weights at 12 years old was 'Weight Lifting and Weight Training' by George W. Kirkley. I distinctly remember how annoyed my mother was when I got home from school and she saw that book. She had this irrational bias against men who lifted weights because she claimed it "wasn't natural" and also was for "big dummies who like to stare at themselves in the mirror"...  Anyway, here's the book:  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2023 22:22:15 GMT
What was recommended in these older courses? Was it progressive resistance?
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Post by Magnus on Mar 23, 2023 2:48:13 GMT
What was recommended in these older courses? Was it progressive resistance? Back then there was a lot less of a division between the various types of weight training. Aside from specific physique training, many bodybuilders and weight trainers of old were capable of some very impressive poundages in Olympic lifting and other assorted strength feats. In those days 'Strength & Health' went hand in hand, with a great physique being just a part of the total package. This is sadly very much unlike what the industry has 'de-volved' into these days... |
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Post by determinator on Mar 23, 2023 8:04:55 GMT
What was recommended in these older courses? Was it progressive resistance? Back then there was a lot less of a division between the various types of weight training. Aside from specific physique training, many bodybuilders and weight trainers of old were capable of some very impressive poundages in Olympic lifting and other assorted strength feats. In those days 'Strength & Health' went hand in hand, with a great physique being just a part of the total package. This is sadly very much unlike what the industry has 'de-volved' into these days... Well put, Magnus. I couldn't recall any specific advise that the old book mentioned as far as progressive resistance goes. It had different exercises described, with pictures and information about the big names involved in the strength and/or physique business. The kettlebell (adjustable) swing is already making the print 100 years ago, with the free hand resting on the upper thigh when the bell is near the bottom position. I found the book a very interesting read, and I borrowed a lot of ideas that it contained in my formative days of weight training. Every once in a while I dig it out to read and go back to those days. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2023 10:46:07 GMT
Thanks Guys!
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Post by fredhutch on Mar 23, 2023 12:14:31 GMT
The first book I ever bought on exercise was "Muscle Building for Beginners" by Fallon and Saunders, published originally in the UK around 1960 or so. My Arco edition cost, if I remember correctly, all of $1.25 sometime in the mid-1970's...and it remains one of the best sources of info. Covered bodyweight exercises, cables, and weights...everything you needed, and nothing you didn't!
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Post by Magnus on Mar 23, 2023 12:32:57 GMT
The first book I ever bought on exercise was "Muscle Building for Beginners" by Fallon and Saunders, published originally in the UK around 1960 or so. My Arco edition cost, if I remember correctly, all of $1.25 sometime in the mid-1970's...and it remains one of the best sources of info. Covered bodyweight exercises, cables, and weights...everything you needed, and nothing you didn't! I have that one as well, also purchased at a school 'book fair'... I'm remembering that particular book was mostly about bodybuilding. |
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Post by brothersteve on Mar 23, 2023 13:30:07 GMT
... My grandpa had given me a book called "Super Strength" by Alan Calvert, which I still have. He never talked about working out with weights when he was younger, but he had the old book that he gave me. The pullover was discussed in that book, published in 1924. That book got me started on how to use my first weight set.Way back in the day those old books were worth their weight in gold, the info contained within their pages was most definitely the key to getting good results in the shortest amount of time. The book that I purchased from a school 'book fair' when I first started lifting weights at 12 years old was 'Weight Lifting and Weight Training' by George W. Kirkley. I distinctly remember how annoyed my mother was when I got home from school and she saw that book. She had this irrational bias against men who lifted weights because she claimed it "wasn't natural" and also was for "big dummies who like to stare at themselves in the mirror"... Anyway, here's the book: I got the same book, but a newer version, when I was about 14 from the bookstore. I used my dish-washer and potato peeling $ from working at my dad's restaurant to buy these. At the time, I also bought Vic Boff's, Lou Ravelle, and Oscar Heidenstam's books of about the same size. |
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