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Post by moxohol on Jun 25, 2022 6:00:03 GMT
Fasting is the best modality for longevity & positive results have been replicated countless times in the lab since the 1930's. In fact, it's universally conserved across species. It goes bone deep. Exercise of any sort merely provides the proper stimulus for SAID. Jack Lalanne worked his ass off decades yet died a year earlier then his golf playing & scotch imbibing brother did. You don't consider 96 years old to be a long life? That's not longevity? No. That's not it. I just think there are way better examples of long lived people who had their marbles & mobility intact, lived longer & didn't throw alot of effort into living to be 100 like Jack Lalanne did. Remember Jack had a heart valve replaced & died within a year of the procedure. The people cited below died as centenarians peacefully without the need of any prosthetics or medical assistance. Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mother Rita Levi-Montalcini George Burns Prince Philip, Queen Consort |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jun 25, 2022 7:51:07 GMT
Prince Philip died aged 99, m8.
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Post by lardy on Jun 25, 2022 8:15:36 GMT
Prince Philip died aged 99, m8. Tbf I think the Royals are genetically inclined to live for a while, Queen Victoria lived to a great age considering the era and the fact every medicine she ever took was loaded with opium and cocaine  |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jun 25, 2022 8:56:06 GMT
Prince Philip died aged 99, m8. Tbf I think the Royals are genetically inclined to live for a while, Queen Victoria lived to a great age Indeed. Queen Victoria is Queen Elizabeth's and Prince Philip's great-great-grandmother. She died aged 81. They are both also related to King Christian IX of Denmark. He died aged 87. |
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Post by lardy on Jun 25, 2022 9:10:06 GMT
Tbf I think the Royals are genetically inclined to live for a while, Queen Victoria lived to a great age Indeed. Queen Victoria is Queen Elizabeth's and Prince Philip's great-great-grandmother. She died aged 81. They are both also related to King Christian IX of Denmark. He died aged 87. Maybe keeping it in the family is the secret to longevity  |
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Post by Alan OldStudent on Jun 25, 2022 9:54:19 GMT
No idea if this does truly increase longevity I didn't see any claim that standing on one leg increases longevity, only that if you are unable to do so for very long that it indicates you might be dead soon, Stormzy m8. This is a good point you make, Bruv. It's that old logical fallacy about " correlation does not imply causation." However, being able to stand on one leg for a long time indicates a good sense of balance. Balance is definitely related to strength in your legs and hip girdle and coordination between all the different muscles involved in locomotion. The older I get, the more I think that perhaps the most important factor in fitness and strength is coordination, which gets down to brain-muscle connections. Having said that, here is a video for seniors on improving balance. I like the fellow who made this video. He's got a lot of other interesting videos, for instance on squatting. Here it is: |
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Post by fredhutch on Jun 25, 2022 12:23:39 GMT
Michael: I haven't watched the DVD for ten years so I am really not sure how often Nate said to do these, but I would be willing to bet he said every day.
Bruv: You're right, there is no mention of it on the Internet. I believe this DVD was marketed both as "Age Reversing Strength" and "Age Defying Strength"...
I also have Nate's "Internal Power Yoga" which is oddly named since it is all about embracing the tree qigong...and it is a very good course for that. Nate said he learned the method from Matt Furey, and like him or not, Matt has some very good knowledge. Nate had three other courses that I know of, "Lumberjack Yoga", "Lumberjack Forearms", and "Lumberjack Abs", although these might have actually been done by his brother...I wish I had bought these when they were available, I scan ebay for them now and then. I'm a lumberjack...and I'm OK.
Nate has a book out now about standing meditation, I don't have it but I would guess it's probably the same system as in "Internal Power Yoga".
The problem with standing on one leg while brushing your teeth is that when you finish brushing your teeth you stop...that's not how to do this, you really need to stand as long as you can to get real benefits, you may shake, you almost certainly will ache, and when you can't stand the ache or you lose your balance, then the session is over. And you might have a little trouble walking for a few minutes. According to Scott Shaw, when you shake during this kind of exercise you are opening up new pathways for your ki/chi, this is part of the reason that if you do this for a while your legs feel stronger...you only get out of this what you put into it.
Whether this or any exercise makes you live longer is hard to say, but the point for me is to live better, and keep on living better for however much time I have left.
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Post by Michael on Jun 25, 2022 20:36:53 GMT
You don't consider 96 years old to be a long life? That's not longevity? No. That's not it. I just think there are way better examples of long lived people who had their marbles & mobility intact, lived longer & didn't throw alot of effort into living to be 100 like Jack Lalanne did. Remember Jack had a heart valve replaced & died within a year of the procedure. The people cited below died as centenarians peacefully without the need of any prosthetics or medical assistance. Queen Elizabeth, Queen Mother Rita Levi-Montalcini George Burns Prince Philip, Queen Consort I get Your point but as far as I know Jack didn't take any medications. Yeah he did put a lot of effort into his exercise regime but He still lived to be 96, pretty old to me. I doubt very much I'll make that. Sometimes family genetics have a lot to do with longevity. But again I get Your point. |
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Post by Michael on Jun 25, 2022 20:46:52 GMT
Michael: I haven't watched the DVD for ten years so I am really not sure how often Nate said to do these, but I would be willing to bet he said every day. Bruv: You're right, there is no mention of it on the Internet. I believe this DVD was marketed both as "Age Reversing Strength" and "Age Defying Strength"... I also have Nate's "Internal Power Yoga" which is oddly named since it is all about embracing the tree qigong...and it is a very good course for that. Nate said he learned the method from Matt Furey, and like him or not, Matt has some very good knowledge. Nate had three other courses that I know of, "Lumberjack Yoga", "Lumberjack Forearms", and "Lumberjack Abs", although these might have actually been done by his brother...I wish I had bought these when they were available, I scan ebay for them now and then. I'm a lumberjack...and I'm OK. Nate has a book out now about standing meditation, I don't have it but I would guess it's probably the same system as in "Internal Power Yoga". The problem with standing on one leg while brushing your teeth is that when you finish brushing your teeth you stop...that's not how to do this, you really need to stand as long as you can to get real benefits, you may shake, you almost certainly will ache, and when you can't stand the ache or you lose your balance, then the session is over. And you might have a little trouble walking for a few minutes. According to Scott Shaw, when you shake during this kind of exercise you are opening up new pathways for your ki/chi, this is part of the reason that if you do this for a while your legs feel stronger...you only get out of this what you put into it. Whether this or any exercise makes you live longer is hard to say, but the point for me is to live better, and keep on living better for however much time I have left. I have his " Lumberjack Yoga" and Lumberjack Abs" courses. Didn't know there was a forearm one. For the standing on one leg exercise he recommend with knee slightly bent right? When You first started doing it how much did it interfere with Your other leg exercises? I know You do other stuff for legs. I do variations of KB Squats and reverse lunges. |
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Post by stormshadow on Jun 26, 2022 10:19:49 GMT
One of the most direct ways balance training affects longevity is helping to prevent falls which kills many people. The carb doctor Atkins was killed in a fall on an icy sidewalk 684000 people per year die from falls www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/falls#:~:text=Falls%20are%20the%20second%20leading,greatest%20number%20of%20fatal%20falls. These are some preventatives Gait, balance and functional training Tai Chi Home assessment and modifications Reduction or withdrawal of psychotropic drugs Multifactorial interventions (individual fall-risk assessments followed by tailored interventions and referrals to address identified risks) Vitamin D supplements for those who are Vitamin D deficient |
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Post by stuke on Jun 27, 2022 6:46:55 GMT
I used to use a crude balance board I made which pivoted over a barbell on the floor. I woukd also practice balancing on the bar itself. Felt great, surprisingly tough on the abs, obliques etc. A oartually deflated min basketball was good too, standing in it ine leg at a time. I really should get back to it.
Apologies if someone has already mentioned Stephen Jepson - I have not had chance to read the whole thread yet, just wanted to post when I saw what the thread is about! Will catch up soon.
Must dig out my slackline too.
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Post by fredhutch on Jun 27, 2022 12:37:31 GMT
Michael, knee just bent a little is right. It never really interfered with leg work because I did single leg stands early and regular stuff late in the day.
How are the Lumberjack courses?
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Post by Michael on Jun 27, 2022 15:14:00 GMT
I will say I think both course are good. I would say I favor the Abs course more. The Abs course in my opinion, for someone like me with back damage is excellent for a strong midsection.
The Lumberjack course is good also. But there are some poses that stretch the lower back which throws my back out of whack. There are a couple of different routines in it. The one shoulder routine is excellent.
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Post by stuke on Jun 28, 2022 13:07:01 GMT
I used to use a crude balance board I made which pivoted over a barbell on the floor. I woukd also practice balancing on the bar itself. Felt great, surprisingly tough on the abs, obliques etc. A oartually deflated min basketball was good too, standing in it ine leg at a time. I really should get back to it. Apologies if someone has already mentioned Stephen Jepson - I have not had chance to read the whole thread yet, just wanted to post when I saw what the thread is about! Will catch up soon. Must dig out my slackline too. Sorry, I didn't realise there was another similar thread. Both great by the way! |
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Post by moxohol on Jun 28, 2022 17:51:35 GMT
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