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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jun 22, 2022 19:26:03 GMT
How is liver a supplement? It's food. You buy it from the butcher, m8. ( 1) How is ancient plant strata derived liquid minerals food, m8? ( 2) 2. Long time ago, the minerals we need were in the soil, taken up by the plants during growth and then, humans and animals ate the mineral-rich plants (food), receiving the minerals they needed. Some of the mineral rich plants died, uneaten, and became buried under layers of earth. Before humans began messing up the earth, minerals were consumed when they ate foods and drank the water that contained them. I know how the minerals got there but it's a bit of a stretch to call them food, Spud m8.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 0:55:14 GMT
Supplements absolutely do work, there's no doubt about it, and one food based (sort of) 'supplement' that is nothing short of a miracle is Astaxanthin.
There are many claims made for Astaxanthin as far as benefits, and of course these claims are hard to actually prove, but I can promise you that the 'skin protection' claim is absolutely 100% TRUE...
I've been taking it for a few years now, and it's been my personal experience that 12mg of Astaxanthin taken daily will protect your skin from sunburn just as good or better than the best sunscreen out there. The stuff is just amazing and I can't believe it isn't more popular than it currently is ?
***I usually use the 'Nutrex' brand, and the best prices out there that I've found are on ebay. I sometimes find deals that are about half price of what the Astaxanthin sells for on Amazon and other places...
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 1:04:06 GMT
Take what you will from this post, but a few years ago I had a conversation with my dogs vet about animal nutrition, and in particular we discussed the 'claimed' benefits of paying extra for so called 'premium' dog foods. He stated that it's pretty much all bogus and a complete waste of money to buy expensive premium food for dogs.
He's been a vet over 30 years, and claims that he's never seen any particular benefit as far as longevity and overall health when feeding the expensive brands, and instead recommended a... "good middle of the road" brand of food, "just as long as it has a good mix of vitamins and minerals added"...
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Post by denis on Jun 23, 2022 2:06:13 GMT
Take what you will from this post, but a few years ago I had a conversation with my dogs vet about animal nutrition, and in particular we discussed the 'claimed' benefits of paying extra for so called 'premium' dog foods. He stated that it's pretty much all bogus and a complete waste of money to buy expensive premium food for dogs. He's been a vet over 30 years, and claims that he's never seen any particular benefit as far as longevity and overall health when feeding the expensive brands, and instead recommended a... "good middle of the road" brand of food, "just as long as it has a good mix of vitamins and minerals added"... i give my cats two products. Raw meow mix and greenpet essentials. i feed them raw meat. proudi brand. as well as ziwipeak air dried
from petfoodreviews on blackhawk grain free for dogs Eve Mermaid • 2 years ago still species-in appropriate and toxic sludge. I could write many pages as to why but the MAIN focus here is ANY processed pet foods which are COOKED is species-inappropriate MEANING not biologically available the ONLY available action is processed pet foods are for LAZY pet owners who WANT their animal/s to fit in with THEIR schedule and conditions. RAW meat and meaty bones MUST be predominately ALL cats and dogs diets NO MATTER WHAT AGE - if the pet has no teeth NO EXCUSES then MINCE CHICKEN NECKS and feed the bones when minced. 50% OF CATS AND DOGS DIETS MUST BE RAW MEATY BONES or RAW MEATY BONES MINCED...SIMPLY ADD 25% raw GREEN LEAFY VEG baby spinach leaves CHOPPED or PUREED 'daily' YES CATS AND DOGS. Throw in a raw egg (smash the shell and add it for calcium - puree) add Hemp seed oil and coconut oil, nutritional brewers yeast veggi yeast flakes, goat and sheep plain yogurt, sweet potato (must cook this one to avoid iron disruption) cook pumpkin, look the list goes on...All my cats and dogs and birds lived very long lives more than average because I always fed what their bodies NEED not JUNK FOOD and QUICK FIX IT's to please my considerations. i've worked in the veterinary industry including holistic animal nutrition both with orthodox and holistic training and I can assure each and every one of you pet owners nothing can EVER replace RAW meat and meaty bones diets for our pets. NEVER has there EVER been before an ever increasing disease epidemic with pets succumbing to choices which can easily be avoided throw the processed garbage in the garbage bin and feed them what they need to live healthy thriving lives. It's FAR cheaper to feed cats and dogs the way their body is designed to absorb and process raw natural foods than being fooled into buying 'fee; good rubbish' at supermarkets and some vet stores that house packed garbage spending hundreds or more annually and then getting hit with a massive vet bill for your pets diseases. Disease starts INSIDE the body and take TIME to display SIGNS and SYMPTOMS. Remember it's so simple to feed pets naturally you've just been lied to and brainwashed by marketing scams. Every pet owner out there can adopt this simple change it its so easy peasy and cheap as chips. If you're worried about trying to fit every nutrient into one meal every day then you're in LUCK why? because dogs as carnivorous-scavengers don't ever eat this way and forcing them to eat this way as process pet foods proclaim to offer-and with no legal limits as to how much% of the synthetic GMO carcinogenic-made vits/mins is mixed into the toxic slop also adding horrific base for diseases to flourish such as hip dysplasia, arthritis etc)so why? are pet owners in LUCK - because dogs never want no need to have a balanced diet every day actually this creates disease by overloading their bodies organs setting in disease - with cats is slightly different cats require 75-80% raw meat and meaty-bones predominately chicken (necks, wings, offal,5% same as dogs) and GREENS wheat grass shoots and baby spinach leaves pureed and goat sheep plain yogurt , cooked pumpkin and sweet potato 5%, raw eggs - so similar to dogs just MORE RAW MEAT AND meaty-bones JUST feed dogs DIFFERENTLY taking approx over 7 days to consume all the necessary nutrients and with cats do it in over 5 days. Same from puppy/kitten to senior pets diet is same just in different ratios (eg lactating and pregnant pets obviously require more fat and other nutrients) and intermittent times. You can't fail. It's so easy. Just start the transition period SLOW to avoid digestive upsets from the processed pet foods have disrupted and changed the cat and dogs natural pH gut acidity balance to very acidic (some cats throw up toxic kibble because of this and it expands and can't digest the rubbish - cats' are NOT cows) so SLOW is the way to go to transition may take up to 3 weeks but can be done easily. Add RAW minced meat then build up to chicken necks (smash them flat and cut into pieces or mince them first) add on top of the toxic kibble daily adding more every day but in small amounts adding less and less toxic kibble then presto the meals done. So here's an example of a simple 2 day variety NOT COMPLETELY balanced: day 1) 4-5 raw meaty bone chicken necks with handful of pureed or chopped baby spinach leaves and handful of cooked in coconut oil pumpkin or sweet potato-kumera, 3 tablespoons of goat or sheep plain yogurt with 2 pinches of dulse (buy by power superfoods red dulse which is a kelp avoid the dark black it's too high in iodine dulse the red one is gentler on the thyroid and will help it) Dinner:raw minced lamb with chicken offal-giblets, hearts, kidneys, brains and 1 raw egg with crushed shell folded into meal. Dessert yogurt with grated apple (no peel or core/seeds)and pinch of nutritional brewers yeast and 1/2 tsp of hemp seed oil. Another meal can be sardines in olive oil or springwater with chopped spinach leaves, and cooked pumpkin ----choose many different ways to feed your pets and yes cats do eat the above and did so for 23 years. Be super proud of taking full responsibility for your pets food because at the end of the day your pet is yours NOT the processed pet food companies because they do NOT care about you or your pets they only care about making it so attractive visually that you will buy it - put it this way...if you wouldn't eat it then neither should your pet why do you think they have stamped on it NOT FIT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION FOR PET FOOD ONLY...OMG that's why it SO SICKENING IT COULD KILL YOU! And that's a FACT. Nope it's time to take the reins and take charge. You're the boss. To our beloved happy pets.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 23, 2022 2:29:12 GMT
Supplements absolutely do work, there's no doubt about it, and one food based (sort of) 'supplement' that is nothing short of a miracle is Astaxanthin. There are many claims made for Astaxanthin as far as benefits, and of course these claims are hard to actually prove, but I can promise you that the 'skin protection' claim is absolutely 100% TRUE... I've been taking it for a few years now, and it's been my personal experience that 12mg of Astaxanthin taken daily will protect your skin from sunburn just as good or better than the best sunscreen out there. The stuff is just amazing and I can't believe it isn't more popular than it currently is ? ***I usually use the 'Nutrex' brand, and the best prices out there that I've found are on ebay. I sometimes find deals that are about half price of what the Astaxanthin sells for on Amazon and other places... The richest source of Astaxanthin is Spirulina algae. I've mentioned in other posts that I eat a 1:1:1 mix of Spirulina, Chlorella and Moringa powders. I buy 1# of each, mix it up and store in a used/empty 2# whey protein can. 2 Dr Axe links: SpirulinaAstaxanthin benefitsThis website link to "Micro Organics UK" is shown as "not secure", if that matters to you: The Antioxidants in Spirulina
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 2:34:00 GMT
Take what you will from this post, but a few years ago I had a conversation with my dogs vet about animal nutrition, and in particular we discussed the 'claimed' benefits of paying extra for so called 'premium' dog foods. He stated that it's pretty much all bogus and a complete waste of money to buy expensive premium food for dogs. He's been a vet over 30 years, and claims that he's never seen any particular benefit as far as longevity and overall health when feeding the expensive brands, and instead recommended a... "good middle of the road" brand of food, "just as long as it has a good mix of vitamins and minerals added"... i give my cats two products. Raw meow mix and greenpet essentials. i feed them raw meat. proudi brand. as well as ziwipeak air dried...
Wow, that giant wall of text is kind of difficult to read, but anyways, we're very happy feeding our dog's with 'middle of the road' Bil Jac brand of dog food. Our dogs are very healthy and active, and their coats are beautiful. One of the many things I like about Bil-Jac is they've never had a recall except for one time about ten years ago they voluntarily recalled a batch due to finding possible excess moisture in the mix, and that could potentially cause mold contamination issues... Another really good thing about the food is any dog I've ever given it to absolutely seemed to love it, and there's no 'transition' period if they've been eating other brands of food due to the high digestibility of Bil-Jac... ...of course your mileage may vary
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 2:36:52 GMT
Supplements absolutely do work, there's no doubt about it, and one food based (sort of) 'supplement' that is nothing short of a miracle is Astaxanthin. There are many claims made for Astaxanthin as far as benefits, and of course these claims are hard to actually prove, but I can promise you that the 'skin protection' claim is absolutely 100% TRUE... I've been taking it for a few years now, and it's been my personal experience that 12mg of Astaxanthin taken daily will protect your skin from sunburn just as good or better than the best sunscreen out there. The stuff is just amazing and I can't believe it isn't more popular than it currently is ? ***I usually use the 'Nutrex' brand, and the best prices out there that I've found are on ebay. I sometimes find deals that are about half price of what the Astaxanthin sells for on Amazon and other places... The richest source of Astaxanthin is Spirulina algae. I've mentioned in other posts that I eat a 1:1:1 mix of Spirulina, Chlorella and Moringa powders. I buy 1# of each, mix it up and store in a used/empty 2# whey protein can. 2 Dr Axe links: SpirulinaAstaxanthin benefitsThis website link to "Micro Organics UK" is shown as "not secure", if that matters to you: The Antioxidants in SpirulinaI take Nutrex Spiralina as well, but as far as I know the "richest source" of Astaxanthan isn't Spiralina, it's actual Astaxanthin.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 2:39:10 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on Jun 23, 2022 2:50:14 GMT
The richest source of Astaxanthin is Spirulina algae. I've mentioned in other posts that I eat a 1:1:1 mix of Spirulina, Chlorella and Moringa powders. I buy 1# of each, mix it up and store in a used/empty 2# whey protein can. 2 Dr Axe links: SpirulinaAstaxanthin benefitsThis website link to "Micro Organics UK" is shown as "not secure", if that matters to you: The Antioxidants in SpirulinaI take Nutrex Spiralina as well, but as far as I know the "richest source" of Astaxanthan isn't Spiralina, it's actual Astaxanthin. Richest NATURAL source. Like quercetin which I get from eating apples, onions, etc, I like to get my nutrients from food as much as possible, so I eat Spirulina.
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Post by MBS on Jun 23, 2022 2:54:45 GMT
I believe Costco sells that.
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 3:31:45 GMT
I take Nutrex Spiralina as well, but as far as I know the "richest source" of Astaxanthan isn't Spiralina, it's actual Astaxanthin. Richest NATURAL source. Like quercetin which I get from eating apples, onions, etc, I like to get my nutrients from food as much as possible, so I eat Spirulina. The Nutrex Astaxanthin can't get any more 'natural' than: "The astaxanthin in BioAstin is derived from microalgae called Haematococcus pluvialis. It is grown on land in Kona, Hawaii, in controlled, fresh water ponds and contains no fish or shellfish bi-products."...I'm sure there's some Astaxanthin in the Spirulina, although probably not enough to make much difference at all, so do yourself a favor and get a hold of what I'm talking about instead of guessing. It'll take a steady dose of 12mg daily, and after a few months you can come on back to this thread and tell me how much you love me
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Post by Magnus on Jun 23, 2022 3:34:36 GMT
I believe Costco sells that. I just checked the Costco website... it's available 'online only' and "on sale" ($10 less) for the price of $41.99 for 120 of Nutrex 12mg. I just paid a fair bit less than that from a trusted vendor that I use on ebay...
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Post by Alan OldStudent on Jun 23, 2022 8:59:44 GMT
2. Long time ago, the minerals we need were in the soil, taken up by the plants during growth and then, humans and animals ate the mineral-rich plants (food), receiving the minerals they needed. Some of the mineral rich plants died, uneaten, and became buried under layers of earth. Before humans began messing up the earth, minerals were consumed when they ate foods and drank the water that contained them. I know how the minerals got there but it's a bit of a stretch to call them food, Spud m8. I think he forgot the role cow shit plays in this wondrous life cycle, m8.
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Post by Michael on Jun 23, 2022 21:39:30 GMT
Magnus if You could only take one supplement would Astaxanthin be the one? What would be Your second choice?
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Post by Magnus on Jun 24, 2022 0:25:16 GMT
Magnus if You could only take one supplement would Astaxanthin be the one? What would be Your second choice? That's a tough question, I'm not really sure ? There's no possible way to get at least 12mg of Astaxantin into your system daily unless maybe a person ate more than a pound of wild salmon per day. From what I've read, 6 ounces (165 grams) of wild salmon needs to be eaten in order to get a 3.6 mg dose of astaxanthin... www.purityproducts.com/blog/the-best-ways-to-get-all-the-astaxanthin-you-needSo about a pound and a half (approximately) of wild salmon per day ? I do eat lots of fish, but that's just not doable, even for someone like me. I regularly take D3, zinc, quercetin, vitamin C, K2, EGCG, lutein, spirulina, and a few other things like magnesium, wheat grass juice powder and desiccated liver pills, that are added into the mix depending on how well I ate on a particular day. At least one or two days per week where I feel I had a particularly nutritious day I'll skip most of the supplements and just take a good mostly 'food based' multi vitamin, if I do take anything at all. *Although on those 'skip' days I don't skip the Astaxanthin. As to your question Michael, I love the Astaxanthin, but if forced to only have one supplement available it would likely just be a good food based multi I guess ? ...and lots and lots of salmon every day
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