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Post by billfish on Nov 19, 2021 22:18:49 GMT
Kyle is acquitted of all charges ! Justice is served Now all the armed citizens of Kenosha Wisconsin should be out guarding their homes, neighborhoods and city from any rioters The jury has spoken !  |
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Nov 19, 2021 23:03:20 GMT
Heard it live on the radio while I was working and it made my day.
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Post by Magnus on Nov 20, 2021 8:21:45 GMT
Now Kyle Rittenhouse can sue 'em all !  |
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Post by Magnus on Nov 20, 2021 12:39:41 GMT
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Nov 21, 2021 22:32:10 GMT
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 3, 2024 20:29:56 GMT
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Post by denis on Jan 4, 2024 4:17:29 GMT
www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/11/20/pers-n20.htmlThe acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse: A judicial travesty The acquittal of Rittenhouse follows a travesty of a trial in which a right-wing judge systematically undermined the prosecution by excluding all of the evidence that would have rebutted Rittenhouse’s claim that he was acting in “self-defense.” Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder did not permit the jury to hear that after Rittenhouse posted bail, he celebrated the killings at a pub with top Proud Boys members, where he flashed “white power” signs, belted out the Proud Boys anthem and grinned for selfies with other Proud Boys members. Nor did the judge permit the jury to hear that before the shooting, Rittenhouse was recorded saying that he wanted to shoot people he thought were shoplifting. “Bro, I wish I had my f—ing AR,” he said. “I’d start shooting rounds at them.” The judge ordered that prosecutors would not be allowed to refer to the men shot by Rittenhouse as “victims” or even “alleged victims.” At the same time, Rittenhouse’s defense attorneys were given free rein to refer to the victims as “arsonists,” “looters” and “rioters.”
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Post by moxohol on Jan 4, 2024 7:46:37 GMT
www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/11/20/pers-n20.htmlThe acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse: A judicial travesty The acquittal of Rittenhouse follows a travesty of a trial in which a right-wing judge systematically undermined the prosecution by excluding all of the evidence that would have rebutted Rittenhouse’s claim that he was acting in “self-defense.” Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder did not permit the jury to hear that after Rittenhouse posted bail, he celebrated the killings at a pub with top Proud Boys members, where he flashed “white power” signs, belted out the Proud Boys anthem and grinned for selfies with other Proud Boys members. Nor did the judge permit the jury to hear that before the shooting, Rittenhouse was recorded saying that he wanted to shoot people he thought were shoplifting. “Bro, I wish I had my f—ing AR,” he said. “I’d start shooting rounds at them.” The judge ordered that prosecutors would not be allowed to refer to the men shot by Rittenhouse as “victims” or even “alleged victims.” At the same time, Rittenhouse’s defense attorneys were given free rein to refer to the victims as “arsonists,” “looters” and “rioters.” It's utter nonsense written by a questionable far left website that spewed out lies about Donald Trump before, during & after his administration. Their credibility is more in question than their obvious bias. Membership in the Proud Boys is no more a criminal affiliatiion than Black Lies Much is considered a terrorist organization guilty of incitement to riots who sponsored "mostly peaceful" protests in 2020 that killed many innocent ppl & did a billion dollars or so in damage to boot. I read nothing of the sort that came out during pretrial hearings & if any of it was remotely true u would have heard it from the national press if not the local news ruminating about it because national media doesn't have a really enforceable gag order. The pedobear Kittenhouse killed if he was mentally ill has no bearing on the incident. No more than if some Game of Thrones COSplayer welding a plastic axe comes charging at police. He reacted to his actions that were known at the time. U can watch the full trial from any number of platforms if u search hard enough. I really questioned what business Kittenhouse had being there in the 1st place. The national press painted him as a white supremacist who merely hoisted his petard to make a stand for the Proud Boys. Nothing of family ties in Kenosha was ever mentioned. The press lied by blatant omission. His reply to the prosecutor that his father & other extended family members lived there just a stones throw away from the state line cinched for me. U could see the prosecutor's line of questioning & composure change substantially after that. He never quite recovered from it. I really thought Kittenhouse was some misguided kid who had gone rogue. Even then I wasn't convinced when he started blubbering on the stand. But I flipped when the obvious & most important salient questions were being asked by the prosecutor & not by the defense asking leading questions. "Why were u there? What were u doing there. Why were u carrying a RIFLE?" The kid retorted with solid un-impeachable answers. I distinctly recall questioning why the prosecutor hadn't done his BASIC homework & yet still brought the case to trial? This "right wing" judge STILL allowed it to proceed to trial even when he could have thrown it out during pretrial hearings for lack of standing or evidence. He didn't. In fact, I was surprised the judge let it proceed at all. The prosecutor failed miserably at making his case from what I viewed on the Court TV channel. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't get off because the prosecution bumbled their case badly with the evidence they had like they did in the OJ Simpson case. He got off because the prosecution spectacularly did the defenses job for them. |
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Post by denis on Jan 4, 2024 8:09:40 GMT
www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/11/20/pers-n20.htmlThe acquittal of Kyle Rittenhouse: A judicial travesty The acquittal of Rittenhouse follows a travesty of a trial in which a right-wing judge systematically undermined the prosecution by excluding all of the evidence that would have rebutted Rittenhouse’s claim that he was acting in “self-defense.” Kenosha County Circuit Court Judge Bruce Schroeder did not permit the jury to hear that after Rittenhouse posted bail, he celebrated the killings at a pub with top Proud Boys members, where he flashed “white power” signs, belted out the Proud Boys anthem and grinned for selfies with other Proud Boys members. Nor did the judge permit the jury to hear that before the shooting, Rittenhouse was recorded saying that he wanted to shoot people he thought were shoplifting. “Bro, I wish I had my f—ing AR,” he said. “I’d start shooting rounds at them.” The judge ordered that prosecutors would not be allowed to refer to the men shot by Rittenhouse as “victims” or even “alleged victims.” At the same time, Rittenhouse’s defense attorneys were given free rein to refer to the victims as “arsonists,” “looters” and “rioters.” It's utter nonsense written by a questionable far left website that spewed out lies about Donald Trump before, during & after his administration. Their credibility is more in question than their obvious bias. Membership in the Proud Boys is no more a criminal affiliatiion than Black Lies Much is considered a terrorist organization guilty of incitement to riots who sponsored "mostly peaceful" protests in 2020 that killed many innocent ppl & did a billion dollars or so in damage to boot. I read nothing of the sort that came out during pretrial hearings & if any of it was remotely true u would have heard it from the national press if not the local news ruminating about it because national media doesn't have a really enforceable gag order. The pedobear Kittenhouse killed if he was mentally ill has no bearing on the incident. No more than if some Game of Thrones COSplayer welding a plastic axe comes charging at police. He reacted to his actions that were known at the time. U can watch the full trial from any number of platforms if u search hard enough. I really questioned what business Kittenhouse had being there in the 1st place. The national press painted him as a white supremacist who merely hoisted his petard to make a stand for the Proud Boys. Nothing of family ties in Kenosha was ever mentioned. The press lied by blatant omission. His reply to the prosecutor that his father & other extended family members lived there just a stones throw away from the state line cinched for me. U could see the prosecutor's line of questioning & composure change substantially after that. He never quite recovered from it. I really thought Kittenhouse was some misguided kid who had gone rogue. Even then I wasn't convinced when he started blubbering on the stand. But I flipped when the obvious & most important salient questions were being asked by the prosecutor & not by the defense asking leading questions. "Why were u there? What were u doing there. Why were u carrying a RIFLE?" The kid retorted with solid un-impeachable answers. I distinctly recall questioning why the prosecutor hadn't done his BASIC homework & yet still brought the case to trial? This "right wing" judge STILL allowed it to proceed to trial even when he could have thrown it out during pretrial hearings for lack of standing or evidence. He didn't. In fact, I was surprised the judge let it proceed at all. The prosecutor failed miserably at making his case from what I viewed on the Court TV channel. Kyle Rittenhouse didn't get off because the prosecution bumbled their case badly with the evidence they had like they did in the OJ Simpson case. He got off because the prosecution spectacularly did the defenses job for them. There are national press links Do you know what happened here? www.wisn.com/amp/article/new-video-appears-to-show-kyle-rittenhouse-before-kenosha-killings/37351942 |
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Post by denis on Jan 4, 2024 8:16:49 GMT
I might look into this properly some other time
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Post by moxohol on Jan 4, 2024 11:44:00 GMT
U cannot re-introduce evidence after pre-trial motions have been concluded & ruled upon which the judge already did with the video in question. The prosecutor wanted to do exactly that by revisiting an old filed motion & brief for an evidentiary hearing during an ongoing trial! U can't do that in commonlaw countries like Oz or the USA. The legal profession generally frowns upon it & throws out such motions.
Do I think the new video goes to the subject's state of mind by applying a posteriori knowledge? Absolutely! Was that evidence worthy enough of impeaching Kittenhouse's testimony? Very possible! Do I think it might have convicted Rittenhouse. Thereby, securing justice. A distinct possibility!
However, u can't bring up old evidence at trial just because Rittenhouse's testimony triggers evidence u COULD have used that was already dismissed by a judge. Regardless if the judges call was good or bad. In real life, u don't work with ppl because u like the way they part their hair. U work with them because they got the job or else you're no good! The prosecution already knew this going into trial & was formulating their cross examinations & LEGAL strategies. Despite this the prosecutor acted contrary to clearly established legal precedent he is well versed in.
The elements on the primary famous video show Rittenhouse clearly being chased & assaulted by a mob. Bottom line: u shouldn't be antagonizing anyone for any reason openly carrying a weapon. If u fuck with the bull u get the horns. I carried a weapon on the family farm whenever I worked. Anytime strangers wandered onto the property looking for work they slowed their approach & displayed their hands when they saw me coming. I didn't have to threaten, chase or point shit at anyone. They did what came instinctively. This was during a time when terrs where popping up & killing ppl on isolated farms....REGULARLY. Anybody that has a real hard on to challenge someone carrying a rifle has bigger & higher priorities to worry about rather than what flag they carry or why they are there in the 1st place. Apparently, this priority escaped them & they paid the price for exercising poor judgment. Don't come with a knife to a gunfight!
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Post by billfish on Jan 4, 2024 15:59:40 GMT
Rittenhouse is a HERO....who would you rather have as a neighbor....him or the scumbags rioting ?
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