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Post by Deuce Gunner on Nov 15, 2021 22:28:25 GMT
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Post by macky on Nov 16, 2021 4:15:24 GMT
Entirely different thing, Deuce.
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Post by trog on Nov 16, 2021 10:09:49 GMT
It reminds me of these events from a couple of years ago
Surely anybody who wears jeans with rivets, is arropriating the culture of miners, farmers, and cattlemen from the North American West.
A number of years ago, when I worked for Birmingham City Council, we had an email to say that all pig desk ornaments, pig calendars, pigs wallpapers on your computers, etc had to be removed as they might offend certain people. The "certain people" weren't named, but you can probably surmise they were Muslims. There had been no complaints, and the Muslims in the office were offended that busy bodies thought they might be offended.
Here's my favourite haka
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Nov 16, 2021 21:40:27 GMT
Entirely different thing, Deuce. Yeah, I guess it's not something so important as a major league rugby game. |
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Post by macky on Nov 16, 2021 21:59:35 GMT
Entirely different thing, Deuce. Yeah, I guess it's not something so important as a major league rugby game. I've never agreed with the haka being performed by the All Blacks before a game. It started at a time in NZ history where the Maori language was being discouraged in schools by the use of corporal punishment etc, and "Native" customs were trivialized. Because Rugby Union is one the major religions in NZ it's tolerated, even by Maori in general. While I'm not one to go too much the other way, as is happening these days re Trog's examples, the haka is a Maori war dance/chant and the objections to using it without authorization for a protest are tribal in this case, for that particular haka. I also suspect that the objections come from a general belief and acceptance of the vaccine roll-out and mandates, using tribal ownership of that particular haka as an excuse. As such, Maori in NZ are just as divided on many issues as any other group of people could be. But the haka in all its different forms according to tribe in NZ is not really any comparison to a style of music used generally for entertainment. |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Nov 17, 2021 6:38:22 GMT
This one has the words. Typical Yorkshire phrases, m8s.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Nov 17, 2021 9:27:13 GMT
The Maori PTB are simply pissed because they do not have any licensing rights and can't figure out how to profit from the protests,
Excuse me, I now have to do some Yorkshire slang phrase research.
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Post by macky on Nov 17, 2021 20:22:13 GMT
No doubt that could be partly true, but there is a historical component to the particular haka that the protesters performed (which I personally approved of simply because it's the most well-known) that has been ratified by govt and the Ngati Toa are legitimately the "guardians" of said haka.
It's the same old story though, the Ones At The Top pulling the strings while their people have very little say in what's going on. Maori have proven they are no different than anyone else in that respect. They are certainly not unified among themselves.
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