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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Sept 27, 2021 23:07:34 GMT
Down here, just passing on information online about when and where a protest is during the lockdowns can get you arrested and fined or even jailed. That's just crazy ! For example. This lady made a post on Facebook saying there was going to be a protest.
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Post by saison on Sept 27, 2021 23:32:56 GMT
Rather than admit the vax doesn't work the politicians are trying to make everyone think that the problem is the unvaxxed. If they came clean and admitted that it was a mistake and really unnecessary all hell would break loose.
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Post by Magnus on Sept 27, 2021 23:36:47 GMT
For example. This lady made a post on Facebook saying there was going to be a protest. WOAH !!!!!!!!!!! I just don't know what to say at this point ?... *Except that perhaps that porky looking police spokesman is a dead ringer for a grown up 'Chubsy Ubsy'...
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Post by Michael on Sept 27, 2021 23:43:00 GMT
For example. This lady made a post on Facebook saying there was going to be a protest. WOAH !!!!!!!!!!! I just don't know what to say at this point ?... *Except that perhaps that porky looking police spokesman is a dead ringer for a grown up 'Chubsy Ubsy'... View Attachment (rofl) (rofl)
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Post by macky on Sept 28, 2021 0:15:25 GMT
Rather than admit the vax doesn't work the politicians are trying to make everyone think that the problem is the unvaxxed. If they came clean and admitted that it was a mistake and really unnecessary all hell would break loose. The politicians are working on Remote. There's always going to be a scapegoat whenever there's a clamp-down on society. There's gotta be, otherwise there's no reason for it. Once the bulk of the public's mind is on said scapegoat of the day, then anything the authorities do to clamp down even harder is "justified" in the interest of public safety (from the scapegoats) and "maintenance of law and order" so that those who obey "can get their lives back again as soon as possible". Classic martial clamp-down strategy, echoed by Mad Morrison's utterance "by Christmas". The vaccine was never a mistake. It was a deliberate method of what we talked about early in this thread last year, where vaccination "becomes necessary for the good of all", and at that point the ultimate control short of military takeover (which they've had to take since all the protest, the cops dressed like Spec Ops forces etc) is accomplished. Once everybody is vaxed, then "selection" take place and yearly vaxes are covertly concocted for reasons other than Covid. Compare my last sentence with Hitler's "selection" program that euthanized certain classes of the German people starting almost immediately after he came to power in 1933 and the labour camps. Everybody will have to get vaxed every year, or even every six months. There will be a register (there already is) that will record your vax, or lack thereof, and you will have a vax-card which will operate as per your legality in society. Failure to cooperate will mean being sent to a camp. Others will be forcibly restrained and vaxed. The vax-passport is already in progress. The military have already been called in. The vax register is already a reality. The medical evidence against Covid vaccination is growing, and so is censorship. This is bigger than the "left", the indignant protests from the "right" only providing a charade of "democratic process" still in operation while the real plans are above all that. Just like the people who say that they will go with the science when the clinical trials are not even halfway through, therefore no conclusions should be made until then. The idea that they made a mistake with some 7 different vaccines online seems just as irrelevant.
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 28, 2021 1:35:51 GMT
...... And it is "most people" that genuinely think they are doing the right thing. They are not sheep. They believe that they should obey the "authorities' for all the right reasons, including those that strive day in and day out to do their best (in their minds) to help others, their sworn duty, such as nurses and most doctors. ...... ...... The Ones In Control have no such partisan divisions, and like I said so many years ago, democracy is only an illusion for the people to believe they are "free". In bold: Three definitions of "sheep". :fixed
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Post by macky on Sept 28, 2021 2:57:52 GMT
You're too harsh mikey. There's no monopoly on superior knowledge of what is happening at any time, and even those like yourself and others here (myself included) that fall on greater truths from time to time than just the MSM output, don't know it all.
Calling people sheep just because you know better than them is akin to slanging soldiers who go out and shoot people they don't know based on what they've been told by their superiors and a few atrocities either genuine or jacked up. They often pay for an agenda they don't have any idea about with their lives.
Would you say then that they are not heroes at least in a genuine patriotic sense, rather than sheep that obey every thing they are told to do ?
And what of nurses and doctors, many of whom have died doing their duty and that genuinely believed as they were told by the PTB, through their bosses and heads of state ?
The family man who has the responsibility of his children to look after in a world where he may lose his means of care at any time, at the whim of a board director who doesn't give a shit about him or his kids ?
I like your third definition, but wouldn't you say that all the criticisms of the "left" on this board (and sometimes the "right") be examples of sheep-like behaviour, too ? The knee-jerk reactions to unsavoury political decisions based on "left or "right" ? When much of what is happening today is the result of decades of planning by the PTB through both left and right govts and presidencies ?
Propaganda works best when The People believe they are acting from their own free will and considered logical thinking and clear vision. That they are not always right because the PTB have cooked up the scene to reflect a decoy that deceives even the best thinkers has been proven true now and then.
Can you say without any doubt in your mind that sometimes (not all) you are not one of the sheep ? I can't.
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 28, 2021 3:10:28 GMT
macky, are you saying that those who are under an illusion that they are free, that they should obey self-proclaimed authority and genuinely think they are doing the right thing are not sheep? I mean, that's what you wrote, right?
That's my point. They ARE sheep.
Whether I am or you are is irrelevant. The thing is, the "sheep" aren't interested or curious enough to do the research, so they remain in ignorance. Do you do that?
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Post by Magnus on Sept 28, 2021 4:08:41 GMT
Calling people sheep just because you know better than them is akin to slanging soldiers who go out and shoot people they don't know based on what they've been told by their superiors and a few atrocities either genuine or jacked up. They often pay for an agenda they don't have any idea about with their lives. Would you say then that they are not heroes at least in a genuine patriotic sense, rather than sheep that obey every thing they are told to do ? Soldiers are heroes, yes, but some citizen who didn't do any or hardly any research before they submit to the jab is a SHEEP, particularly when there's so much vocal opposition now...
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Post by macky on Sept 28, 2021 4:54:47 GMT
macky, are you saying that those who are under an illusion that they are free, that they should obey self-proclaimed authority and genuinely think they are doing the right thing are not sheep? I mean, that's what you wrote, right? That's my point. They ARE sheep. Whether I am or you are is irrelevant. The thing is, the "sheep" aren't interested or curious enough to do the research, so they remain in ignorance. Do you do that? If someone believes they are free (as much as they ever can be in this world) and genuinely believe that the authorities are right and that they are doing the right thing, are not behaving like sheep at all. Sheep simply behave as their instincts tell them, maybe with some very minor thought-choice as to which way they jump when confronted by the sheep dog. BELIEF is what makes those that seem to be acting in the flock or herd different to sheep. Belief is the prime motivator of Mankind. To call any group sheep is placing oneself above those that believe. That believe they are doing the right thing. Religions, and adherence to the scientific method as the only reality is therefore sheep-like by your definition ? The crusades where knights and soldiers went to fight their counterparts that believed in essentially the same things. Soldiers who signed up to fight "Islamic" extremists, just because they were told who drove the planes on 9/11, without ever taking the time to examine the Official Story in a critical manner, giving their lives in patriotic battle or possible lifelong injury ? Down at Arlington cemetery at a burial of the latest casualty of a jack-up, will you go down there and call them sheep ? Would you even think they are sheep ? What then are people who have their life motivation towards the the welfare of their family, even if they don't examine the negative results coming out of the Covid/vaccination plot because they fundamentally believe that they are doing the best for their families, and the nurses and doctors who have given their lives because they too believed in what they were doing, believed in their duty above all else to give comfort and save life. They are sheep ? That is the real evil behind those that have no feeling or thought for the millions of People who actually support them, who believe Evil Ones' lies and act accordingly, NOT as sheep, but because they are duty-bound to the country, their family, the Truth as they see it. The Psychopaths that rule over all that to the detriment of The People, and their minions further down the ladder of authority who know that what they are doing is so totally wrong, are among the Evil Ones that have made the world what it is. The Sheep is just a contemptuous term for those that don't believe in what others believe. That the "enlightened ones" may know more about what is really going on doesn't make the term justified. Because if we are to protest, resist, and expose the Evil Ones, then we are doing that on behalf of The People, are we not ? All of them, "sheep" or not ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 28, 2021 12:17:43 GMT
macky, are you saying that those who are under an illusion that they are free, that they should obey self-proclaimed authority and genuinely think they are doing the right thing are not sheep? I mean, that's what you wrote, right? That's my point. They ARE sheep. Whether I am or you are is irrelevant. The thing is, the "sheep" aren't interested or curious enough to do the research, so they remain in ignorance. Do you do that? If someone believes they are free (as much as they ever can be in this world) and genuinely believe that the authorities are right and that they are doing the right thing, are not behaving like sheep at all. Sheep simply behave as their instincts tell them, maybe with some very minor thought-choice as to which way they jump when confronted by the sheep dog. BELIEF is what makes those that seem to be acting in the flock or herd different to sheep. Belief is the prime motivator of Mankind. To call any group sheep is placing oneself above those that believe. That believe they are doing the right thing. Religions, and adherence to the scientific method as the only reality is therefore sheep-like by your definition ? The crusades where knights and soldiers went to fight their counterparts that believed in essentially the same things. Soldiers who signed up to fight "Islamic" extremists, just because they were told who drove the planes on 9/11, without ever taking the time to examine the Official Story in a critical manner, giving their lives in patriotic battle or possible lifelong injury ? Down at Arlington cemetery at a burial of the latest casualty of a jack-up, will you go down there and call them sheep ? Would you even think they are sheep ? What then are people who have their life motivation towards the the welfare of their family, even if they don't examine the negative results coming out of the Covid/vaccination plot because they fundamentally believe that they are doing the best for their families, and the nurses and doctors who have given their lives because they too believed in what they were doing, believed in their duty above all else to give comfort and save life. They are sheep ? That is the real evil behind those that have no feeling or thought for the millions of People who actually support them, who believe Evil Ones' lies and act accordingly, NOT as sheep, but because they are duty-bound to the country, their family, the Truth as they see it. The Psychopaths that rule over all that to the detriment of The People, and their minions further down the ladder of authority who know that what they are doing is so totally wrong, are among the Evil Ones that have made the world what it is. The Sheep is just a contemptuous term for those that don't believe in what others believe. That the "enlightened ones" may know more about what is really going on doesn't make the term justified. Because if we are to protest, resist, and expose the Evil Ones, then we are doing that on behalf of The People, are we not ? All of them, "sheep" or not ? You brought it up, saying that those who "act accordingly" to "the Truth as they see it" - they've accepted the illusions have been presented to them by other humans using mass media without question - you say they are NOT acting like sheep? ("Acting" like sheep would have been a better choice of words for both of us. Obviously, they are not actually sheep.) And, those are your definitions for people who are acting like sheep, not mine. You're saying that the behavior of unquestioning obedience to mass media propaganda is NOT acting like sheep. I just disagree.
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Post by macky on Sept 28, 2021 19:26:39 GMT
Okay then. You can have it. All good.
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 29, 2021 1:36:42 GMT
Okay then. You can have it. All good. :) Alright. I'm writing it down and taking a picture.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Aug 2, 2022 9:08:25 GMT
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Post by tommyhelms on Aug 2, 2022 13:20:08 GMT
"Abortions don't like kill people". We are doomed
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