The Red Pill and the Blue Pill

[denis]

To berate public education, even more, Gatto links what was really going on when compulsory education turned into the law of the land in Massachusetts in 1852. Northeastern elites had started to discuss the possibility of a utopian setting after the Civil War that started with isolating children from their parents or guardians. Such indoctrination, they expected, would lead to a more orderly form of society in which democratic and libertarian traditions were thrown off.

For example, consider these thoughts from a work by Edward A Ross on “Social Control” in 1901. In that work, you will read that the “plan” was to use mass media, education, and propaganda (ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause) to replace family, community, and church. The plan was to break free from the church and embrace the school to help form these “plastic lumps of human dough” as Ross calls the children.

According to Gatto, who has all the experience necessary to make the claim, people can learn all the foundational math, reading, and writing information they need in roughly 100 hours of study. Public school, on the other hand, requires a whopping 25,000 hours for the same things. But why?

He teaches that the reason behind this mass schooling approach provides a means through which the general population can be socially engineered. Furthermore, he calls schools “laboratories” in which violence and humiliation are the tools used to bring about social efficiency.

greathomeschoolconventions.com/blog/the-legacy-of-john-taylor-gatto

[denis]

As far as 911, I was one of the first to question the official story online and posted extensively on the subject on a site popular at the time called bestandworst. A ballot voting site

[macky]

Sept 15, 2021 8:01:24 GMT denis said:

As far as 911, I was one of the first to question the official story online and posted extensively on the subject on a site popular at the time called bestandworst. A ballot voting site

What prompted you to start questioning the Party Line of 9/11 ?  Was it a feeling, something said that didn't sound right ?  Something measurable like the hole in the Pentagon matching the fuselage of a B757 but no wing slash marks or engine holes to each side ? 

[denis]

It’s been a long time. If I remember correctly, there were suspicions raised about the speed in which the media were identifying the attackers before any investigation had happened.
There were also a number of fbi investigators who were warning about it before it happened but were sabotaged by their higher ups . I think ‘John O’Neill ‘ was one.
Also, the cia or fbi had never claimed al-qaeda even existed
But was made up of unrelated groups. This had happened before.

[denis]

I’d have to look into it all again to remember. A site I posted from was oil empire.

[denis]

www.oilempire.us/

[mr potatohead]

Sept 15, 2021 8:24:52 GMT macky said:

What prompted you to start questioning the Party Line of 9/11 ?  Was it a feeling, something said that didn't sound right ?  Something measurable like the hole in the Pentagon matching the fuselage of a B757 but no wing slash marks or engine holes to each side ? 

It was Bush's reaction when told it had just occurred, as he was speaking in a classroom of kids.

[macky]

Sept 15, 2021 8:35:31 GMT denis said:

It’s been a long time. If I remember correctly, there were suspicions raised about the speed in which the media were identifying the attackers before any investigation had happened.
There were also a number of fbi investigators who were warning about it before it happened but were sabotaged by their higher ups . I think ‘John O’Neill ‘ was one.
Also, the cia or fbi had never claimed al-qaeda even existed
But was made up of unrelated groups. This had happened before.

Yes that had crossed my mind too.  It was far too quick for Bush to name OBL.  I still remember him on TV  "Osama Bin Laden....we're comin' to get ya....!"  I thought, surely all this is not being taken seriously ?

What really done it for me (apart from the single hole in the Pentagon) was the alleged list that "was first found in a car in the carpark, with a Koran and a Flight manual (I think), later to have transferred itself to Atta's luggage which despite being there an hour early hadn't made it onto the flight (AA11) and which the list with the names of the terrorists were all there, and a Will.

I suppose Atta expected his Will to be found intact after the crash ?  But if those details are mis-remembered, the one that made me laugh was that four of the original names on the list managed to change themselves over the next 48 hours, with Hani Hanjour appearing for the first time.  And despite no DNA testing ever done on the alleged terrorists, Hanjour was quickly named as the pilot of AA77 into the Pentagon.

When any aircraft crashes, the NTSB immediately calls the airline involved for a passenger list. That's one of the first things that happens. Then they can notify the families involved and sort the insurances out etc. 

Passenger lists are normally bona fide genuine as you can get. They have to be.  Any passenger lists with those "new" four on the "found" list, were altered.  Simple as that. 

[macky]

Another thing, the file list of attackers' names that were released by the FBI to the Press some time later clearly stated that they were "believed" (or thought) to be those named.

The howling Press took them as named and they have gone down in history as certain.  None of the alleged 19 were ever identified by DNA. I also had an FBI file that stated that five sets of DNA thought to be the Pentagon attackers were contained and placed in FBI storage. 

Not all passengers on those flights (assuming they were actual) were ID'd by DNA.  Some of the Towers passengers were unable to be identified owing to the initial fireball and later the collapse of the towers.

The passport of the WTC2 pilot that was "found" a block(s) away was stated by (side notes) submission at the 9/11 Commission enquiry to have been altered "in the manner of Al Queda and we'll leave it at that". 
Apart from what the "manner" of Al Queda was supposed to be, if the find was genuine and somehow the pilot's passport miraculously managed to survive the crash and fireball of a planeload of jet fuel igniting all at once, then the submission reporting that it was altered still leaves it up in the air that the alleged holder's name of the passport was unproven.  

Meanwhile, at the Pentagon the debris was hustled away in such short order that complaints were made at the time, of a crime scene that needed more analysis being cleaned up too quickly. 

The remains of the passengers were taken off-site as well and analyzed at another location according to the Official Story, which opens the speculation of tampering, because there is no indication that any Chain Of Custody was adhered in the rush to remove everything as soon as possible.

All the cam footage showing the fly-in at the Pentagon and the garage across the road was removed by the FBI and have never been released despite efforts by researchers.  The only cam that showed anything at all to the public was the gate cam that showed an aircraft of some sort hitting the Pentagon and the resultant crash and fireball, too obscure to prove it was AA77, or even a B757.   Or not. 

The original gate cam photos which were released showed the date and time stamps at the bottom, as expected.  But the date was Sept 12, the following day. All photos of the gate cams since have the time and date stamps cropped from the bottom. 

Along with the fly-in cams never released, it clearly shows that the Authorities have something to hide, when one considers how often the replays of Fl175 (if it indeed was) flying into WTC2. 

The Pentagon cam footage of flight AA77 would have "proved once and for all" that it was an aircraft (at least) that flew in and hit the Pentagon, and not a missile, in the public's mind.  The suppression of the cam footage can only promote suspicion and outlandish conspiracy theory.