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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jul 16, 2021 22:53:50 GMT
Just send in Detectives Riggs and Murtaugh. Of course you would first have to give them diplomatic immunity.
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Post by brothersteve on Jul 17, 2021 12:37:22 GMT
They can call these 'riots' all they want, but it is all civil insurrection and is spreading all over the world. No one wants the governmental tyranny that is increasing and, combined with COVID frustration, has boiled over. Sad times indeed!
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jul 17, 2021 18:58:03 GMT
What's happening in South Africa is due to tribal matters that we in the western world can't even begin to comprehend. It started over the (legal) arrest of an ex-president (who was a member of a major size tribe) due to contempt of court over a corruption investigation. Not over governmental tyranny. As in most all cases of rioting and looting, the poor will vent in the short term and then suffer in the long term.
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Post by macky on Jul 17, 2021 21:45:18 GMT
Some wise heads (not necessarily white supremacists) said decades ago that turning SA over to the blacks would only result in degeneration into tribal warfare. Other African countries have proven that to be a fact already.
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Post by brothersteve on Jul 17, 2021 23:49:46 GMT
Factually, the riots started over Zuma being jailed. He turned himself in after facing contempt for the corruption charges that were accumulated over his many years in power. Zuma's contempt charge further illustrates, in my opinion, Ramaphosa's tyrannical behavior. But, it goes deeper than Zuma. Zuma is only the face of the real issue.
The apartheid regime used strategies to keep South Africans divided as a nation. It was through the differences between ethnic groups and tribes, among other things, that the government of the time managed to manipulate and entrench hatred and a lack of trust among most black South Africans. Tribalism, which existed even before apartheid, became instrumental in inflicting those divisions as perpetuated by the formation of homelands with the various ethnic groups being turned against each other. There is much more than this but it's a start.
When in politics as long as Zuma (50+ years), it is almost certain corruption charges will be your doomsday. Accusations of rape, arms dealing charges, a confirmed polygamist, etc. - these never get you popularity. Zuma was replaced by Cyril Ramaphosa (considered a liar and evil dictator running a tyrannical regime by many) in 2018. Zuma’s supporters say he is the victim of a witch-hunt orchestrated by political opponents. As well, in recent months, a number of figures who thrived under Zuma have been marginalised and hit with legal cases or forced to relinquish powerful posts.
Less than a decade ago, it was reported that Africa could feed itself and now people there are suffering food shortages? Businesses, and Ramaphosa, making much money off the backs of the citizens and paying next to nothing is basically slavery. Same old story, the super rich and the starving. As a result, South Africa lies below the poverty line like any other developing country. Many would consider it a tyrannical government that does that to it's people. Trump was portrayed as a tyrant by many, so is Putin......it all depends on where you stand.
Money, power, greed. Corruption is a buzz word used especially in politics to point charges at people the opposition, whoever that is, want gone. The underlying issue of corruption from power-hungry officials who are forcing unwanted changes on the citizens who are also now feeling the effects of COVID lockdown slavery of the economy.
When militias are formed as a result of - no police, no army to protect citizens, then there is a major problem. If one does not believe this is a civil insurrection, then what is? For South Africa, this is the worst violent crisis since the end of apartheid and preceded the first democratic elections in 1994.
Frustrated, the people want better and want it now. The exact individual intricacies in all cases of these countries we will never really know and do not need to know. This scenario is being played out all around the world; Lebanon, Palestine, Venezuela, Cuba, Haiti, etc. with all areas exploding into chaos and possibly on the verge of collapse. It won't be long before this happens here in the US as well, which will be a direct result of the open borders. Letting in refugees from other countries torn by corrupt politics and allowing them to vote here means they will surely cast their ballot in favor of a politician who will be vocal in stating they are in favor of helping other countries using your hard-earned American tax dollars. Maybe AOC will be POTUS.....some day. This may not be as short a term as you think.
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Post by macky on Jul 18, 2021 8:32:15 GMT
At the last, either it's military takeover, and/or wealth disparity that is the root cause of unrest and resentment/violence. The small minority controlling and/or owning the bulk of the country's wealth.
Partisan, tribal, racial, religious divisions, all triggers.
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Post by Unknown on Jul 18, 2021 11:56:38 GMT
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 19, 2021 10:32:21 GMT
How do we know that's not dubbed? We can't see his lips moving.
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Post by Unknown on Jul 19, 2021 10:41:40 GMT
It could well be, with the amount of disinformation flying around from all sides its hard to make sense of anything these days.
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Post by Unknown on Jul 19, 2021 10:48:57 GMT
I think he says: "The court says go Into Indian and White Neighborhoods; Kill Them and Burn their houses down" so you could say the title is a bit misleading
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Post by moxohol on Jul 23, 2021 8:22:47 GMT
Some wise heads (not necessarily white supremacists) said decades ago that turning SA over to the blacks would only result in degeneration into tribal warfare. Other African countries have proven that to be a fact already. SA should create an African Foreign Legion like the french & formerly spanish counterparts plus the Singaporean security police (exclusively gurkhas) that reports directly to Parliament. It would provide stability & work. You could have the unit officered by seconded military professionals under contract (they did it with the Jordanian Arab Legion & still do so in Oman with british officers)
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jul 23, 2021 20:10:59 GMT
Some wise heads (not necessarily white supremacists) said decades ago that turning SA over to the blacks would only result in degeneration into tribal warfare. Other African countries have proven that to be a fact already. SA should create an African Foreign Legion like the french & formerly spanish counterparts plus the Singaporean security police (exclusively gurkhas) that reports directly to Parliament. It would provide stability & work. You could have the unit officered by seconded military professionals under contract (they did it with the Jordanian Arab Legion & still do so in Oman with british officers) Hmmmm? Something like that existed a little while ago, and kind of right near there. They could model it on this.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jul 23, 2021 20:48:42 GMT
It worked in function. It was sold out in the global political arena.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jul 23, 2021 23:07:36 GMT
The guy speaking is not Hal Turner, m8.
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