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Post by zenqsavant on Jun 14, 2021 11:28:10 GMT
I was just thinking I was following Ted skup on Instagram and John Peterson on face book...there around the same age give or take a year or two..but if you know what I mean one has aged drastically and the other has more or less maintained pretty well on a simple lifestyle..no crazy fitness or fountain of youth claims..no organic diets or special excercises..unless there's something I'm unaware of that has caused ones apparent rapid age acceleration..my takeaway is a little bit will do ya..anything complicated and vanity driven is not gonna yield any better results..than a simple stress free..sensible and manageable diet and exercise lifestyle..I know I'm not saying anything new..but the flag has been waving high again on the matter
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Post by brothersteve on Jun 14, 2021 12:15:44 GMT
Genetics also plays a big part.
In my opinion, Trump was kind of on the right track when he said exercise was bad. I believe he meant bad in the sense of how absorbed folks get in it for ego and vanity. Whether it be 500 pushups/day, running 20 miles/day, etc., all those folks get in great shape for a period of time, but it takes it's toll.
Too many strong and fit people have passed too soon and I believe it has something to do with the intensity they push themselves through on a continual basis that ages them. Also, I believe that once one is in great shape/strength, they feel the need to continually live up to that paramount of expectation. For example, if Sandow didn't try and get his car out of that ditch by himself he may have lived a lot longer. The body ages no matter what and if you let your ego push you it can end tragically.
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Post by zenqsavant on Jun 14, 2021 12:49:54 GMT
Hello brother steve..my thoughts exactly..I agree excessive compulsive exercise is not good..and genes also I take in consideration when comparing the apples and oranges in the fitness world..I look at all these fitness freaks in the race to nowhere to each his own of course..but in this case The weak old slow tortoise wins this race..But his secret is consistency pace, indifference, contentment and he enjoys the journey not the destination...but of course the tortoise would interject with simple effiecent excercises..just enough to maintain..with genes of course playing a deciding role..I do understand though if it's a person's meal ticket..then I say strain on
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Post by zenqsavant on Jun 14, 2021 12:57:04 GMT
As A side note Brother steve..I believe Bruce Lee, Sandow and Atlas..would have loved much longer as well had they been more discretionary..to that aside..I believe we could have got a few more John Candy movies as well..if he'd actually did some excercises...I guess when I hear people passing due to heart strain or sometype of stroke,aneurism..I personally attribute too much or too little excercise mixed with overfat.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 15, 2021 8:23:37 GMT
Wellness involves doing (and eating) just enough. You try not to wear out or rust out.
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Post by zenqsavant on Jun 15, 2021 18:31:48 GMT
Absolutely.
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Post by Michael on Jun 15, 2021 20:47:13 GMT
I don't know much about Ted Skup. But JP is mostly ego-driven and pushing the limits all the time. He was always trying to make himself look like a macho man. Any man that grows their hair long and puts it in a ponytail at that age, something is off.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jun 15, 2021 21:57:26 GMT
I don't know much about Ted Skup. But JP is mostly ego-driven and pushing the limits all the time. He was always trying to make himself look like a macho man. Any man that grows their hair long and puts it in a ponytail at that age, something is off. Robert at The Pushups Forum used to rave about Ted Skup and the magic of the "simplicity" of his multi hundreds a day of pushups. www.amazon.com/Death-Taxes-Push-ups-Ted-Skup/dp/0615161723
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Post by billfish on Jun 15, 2021 22:01:14 GMT
I don't know much about Ted Skup. But JP is mostly ego-driven and pushing the limits all the time. He was always trying to make himself look like a macho man. Any man that grows their hair long and puts it in a ponytail at that age, something is off. I never believed JP.....he was just too strong, too fast, too much of everything But , his stories were hilarious (rofl)
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Post by zenqsavant on Jun 15, 2021 22:03:43 GMT
Ted skup I learned of through his book many years ago death taxes and pushups..he exemplifies simplicity of fitness and life style..simple diet, clean living..no crazy claims or holistic diets..just pushups and regular meals and lots of outdoor adventure for leisure..and he's very physically powerful and youthful looking..
But Jp has aged something rapid..but he touted all this magical anti aging vitamins and fountain of youth..I'm sorry I was just surprised when I saw recent videos of him it's like overnight he hit 80..but I defiantly think alot of ego and exaggeration came from John..but the end result it seems falls flat as he reaper non of his claims at least outwardly.
Its just kinda drew the line in the sand how to best do this fitness and health regime..Also I like Ted because he 100 percent practices what he preaches, no ego or outlandish claims..or stories
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Post by billfish on Jun 15, 2021 22:05:46 GMT
Genetics also plays a big part. In my opinion, Trump was kind of on the right track when he said exercise was bad. I believe he meant bad in the sense of how absorbed folks get in it for ego and vanity. Whether it be 500 pushups/day, running 20 miles/day, etc., all those folks get in great shape for a period of time, but it takes it's toll. Too many strong and fit people have passed too soon and I believe it has something to do with the intensity they push themselves through on a continual basis that ages them. Also, I believe that once one is in great shape/strength, they feel the need to continually live up to that paramount of expectation. For example, if Sandow didn't try and get his car out of that ditch by himself he may have lived a lot longer. The body ages no matter what and if you let your ego push you it can end tragically. Totally agree brothersteve I think ego is the main problem and these guys don't wake up until it's too late or they end up with a sign on their coffin "500 pushups, burpees, squats etc if it kills me " As has been said, moderation in all things
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Post by Michael on Jun 15, 2021 23:15:18 GMT
I don't know much about Ted Skup. But JP is mostly ego-driven and pushing the limits all the time. He was always trying to make himself look like a macho man. Any man that grows their hair long and puts it in a ponytail at that age, something is off. I never believed JP.....he was just too strong, too fast, too much of everything But , his stories were hilarious If I was being honest I was gullible at one time with him. But once I woke up You're right, his stories were hilarious. All that extreme stuff is useless if You can't live better with the time You are given.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jun 17, 2021 0:06:13 GMT
I wonder if the entire population of Minneapolis is still gathering around the Petersons, commenting on their wondrous physiques?
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Post by MBS on Jun 17, 2021 4:10:16 GMT
I’ve heard lots of good things about Ted,but I can’t imagine a more boring routine than high rep push-ups throughout the day.
It seems to me that this approach would cause significant cognitive dulling, after droning on for weeks, months, years, of high rep push-ups.
YMMV.
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Post by Michael on Jun 17, 2021 10:28:20 GMT
I’ve heard lots of good things about Ted,but I can’t imagine a more boring routine than high rep push-ups throughout the day. It seems to me that this approach would cause significant cognitive dulling, after droning on for weeks, months, years, of high rep push-ups. YMMV. Yeah I would agree. I guess some are lucky that just doing high rep pushups don't cause muscle imbalances and injuries. Plus, it is drudgery for me just doing one exercise. I know I wasn't so lucky in the past. But if he feels good and can get away with it good for him.
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