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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jan 23, 2021 21:07:32 GMT
Bruce is now applauding the alleged boost in production and distribution that Biden is giving to a vaccine that during the campaign he said he did not trust because it was developed during the Trump administration.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 23, 2021 21:44:13 GMT
Bruce is now applauding the alleged boost in production and distribution that Biden is giving to a vaccine that during the campaign he said he did not trust because it was developed during the Trump administration. There's more to that assertion and it's not so simple as that. But, I'm not going to spend my time searching through all the related news stories because it would be a waste of time. I was, I think, obviously joking when I said that no sooner did Biden say he was going to speed up the distribution than we got the phone call right after he was inaugurated. Of course it was coincidental. I've stated my position here, and I will say no more on the matter.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jan 23, 2021 22:37:34 GMT
The wearing of a mask is also socially reassuring that the wearer cares enough about others, whether it's effective or not. We probably all think this is the real reason mask-based legislation is put in place.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 23, 2021 22:48:34 GMT
The wearing of a mask is also socially reassuring that the wearer cares enough about others, whether it's effective or not. We probably all think this is the real reason mask-based legislation is put in place. Virtue signal, and nothing more.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 23, 2021 22:50:31 GMT
Here's what the winner of the Nobel Prize in Chemistry and inventor of the PCR test has to say about "real experts". He died, unexpectedly, in Aug of 2019.
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Post by Magnus on Jan 23, 2021 23:28:17 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Jan 23, 2021 23:31:13 GMT
Bruce is now applauding the alleged boost in production and distribution that Biden is giving to a vaccine that during the campaign he said he did not trust because it was developed during the Trump administration. There's more to that assertion and it's not so simple as that. But, I'm not going to spend my time searching through all the related news stories because it would be a waste of time.No worries, m8, I'll spend 5 minutes out of my day and do all the research for you
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Post by pierinifitness on Jan 23, 2021 23:37:44 GMT
I’m A positive so I’m doomed.
I attend Mass on Sunday and there’s no masks required. The pews are full. I suppose this is considered high risk by the experts.
We’re all doing fine but I realize that things could all change in a nanosecond,
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Post by macky on Jan 23, 2021 23:55:28 GMT
We probably all think this is the real reason mask-based legislation is put in place. Virtue signal, and nothing more. Put any label on it you want. Socially caring was primarily the reason I wore a mask. Any assumed medical benefits, how would I have known ? "Hope" was a large component.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 24, 2021 0:11:42 GMT
..... I mean really folks, it isn't like the vaccine was primed and ready BEFORE the election, .... Actually .......... Moderna's been working on gene therapy medicine (currently called a "vaccine") for quite some time. If anyone bothered to do their own research, they can find Moderna's docs on it and read for themselves, but it's your life, do what you think is best for you, just don't expect me to conform to your opinion, way of living or fashion styles.
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Post by Magnus on Jan 24, 2021 0:55:19 GMT
..... I mean really folks, it isn't like the vaccine was primed and ready BEFORE the election, .... Actually .......... Moderna's been working on gene therapy medicine (currently called a "vaccine") for quite some time. If anyone bothered to do their own research, they can find Moderna's docs on it and read for themselves, but it's your life, do what you think is best for you, just don't expect me to conform to your opinion, way of living or fashion styles. I know you know Mikey, but I do suppose there are people who might not understand I was being New York style sarcastic in that little soundbite The MF'ers who held back the announcement that the vaccine was ready until after the election of dimwit Biden should be strung up by their balls...
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 24, 2021 2:05:20 GMT
NY style sarcastic, huh?
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Post by Magnus on Jan 24, 2021 5:13:29 GMT
Live from New York, it's Sarcasm 101
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 24, 2021 23:10:25 GMT
Well you're certainly entitled to your 'opinion' Dr. BigQuackOfEnglandUK, however wrong that opinion may be, as the strongest evidence in favor of masks and hand washing come from studies of real-world scenarios.... files.fast.ai/papers/masks_lit_review.pdfI've seen that study before. It didn't convince me then and it doesn't convince me now. Partly because it uses words like "may", "probably" and "somewhat" and also I know that masks don't do what they were not designed to do. Before the pandemic started the CDC, UK Department of Health, OSHA etc all had information regarding masks and airborne viruses and all came to the conclusion that medical masks (Not N-95's) and cloth masks do not stop airborne viruses. They are not designed to. They can only trap some droplets and droplets are not airborne. Airborne virus is smaller than the weave in a mask. If they stopped airborne viruses there wouldn't be so many medical staff (Who know all about putting masks on, taking them off and disposing of them in a safe way) catching the virus. They are not getting infected from droplets or at least very few would be as they are protecting themselves from droplets. It's funny how so many studies have come out since the pandemic started that supposedly prove that masks that were proven to be almost useless against airborne viruses before the pandemic are now great against airborne viruses. If those masks were not up to the job in 2019, they are not up to the job now, no matter how many anecdotes of some infected guy on a plane that didn't spread the virus they tell you. How infected was this guy anyway? Just had the corona virus but not the disease covid-19? Who knows? Both get labelled as covid-19. It's not like all infected people always infect a whole load of other people or even just one other person. The highest the reinfection rate got in the UK was 1.6 and the UK has been hit badly by the disease. Worse than the USA. 1.6 translates as 1 infected person infected 1.6 other people but we know there have been super spreader events where 1 person infected a whole bunch of others which must mean that some infected people didn't infect anybody but came into contact with others, just like the guy on the plane did. Anyway, if somebody is wearing a mask to protect other people then wtf are they doing out in public? They should stay home if they believe they have the virus.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Jan 24, 2021 23:10:38 GMT
I don't know if the US can get 100M vaccines into people in 100 days as Biden plans, but if he can AND with the additional cases from casual community spread increases of the total, then the US should be about done with this by end of summer. The US was already up to over 1 million per day before Biden was inaugurated so I think they can probably pull it off. I'm really not convinced that it's a great idea though but if one million per day want it, then fair enough. The vaccine trials on the elderly are actually taking place as we speak as none of the vaccines were trialed on the elderly in the couple of months of trials before the vaccines were released. Corona virus vaccines have always failed in the past and always ended up killing the animals they were tested on when the animals were infected with the wild virus. My mum and step father were vaccinated about a week ago. They only got it because they were offered it. I was surprised they went for it as I know that they don't have serious health problems and have not been worried about the virus. The only thing that puts them in an at risk group is their age (81) but as their health is good I wouldn't consider them as at risk. It might have been a better idea to let other people be the guinea pigs?
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