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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Feb 22, 2021 5:02:30 GMT
SARS. A deadly corona virus. No vaccine. Died out after two years. MERS. A deadly corona virus. No vaccine. Died out after two years. No wonder these companies were in a rush to get the covid-19 vaccine to market.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 22, 2021 11:06:39 GMT
Thanks to MSM misrepresentation, many have the idea that the current gene therapy medicines are vaccines. They are not. Vaccines, by definition, impart immunity to some disease:
The mRNA injections are experimental synthetic gene therapy medicines as described by the manufacturers in their own literature. No formerly live ingredients. The program now happening for injecting these synthetic fluids is a new experimental trial to discover what they will do in humans.
If these were actual vaccines, they would impart immunity. Obviously, if a person needs to continue to wear a mask, socialism distance, obsessively wash hands, etc, then it is not a vaccine by definition.
Another fact is that virus, which are part of every human being's immune system numbering in the trillions, are unique. Virus do not "mutate", that's just an illusion. Viruses that have been named according to their apparent effect on health (symptoms) due to immune response are in every human to some degree. If it were not for the virus in our bodies, we would die. Virus are part of our body's self-healing process. The virus that responds to one threat won't be the virus that responds to another, but there is no mutation. As I've said before, we should be focusing on what threat(s) is/are actually causing our virus to activate against them and find ways to avoid or eliminate the threats as much as possible. "COVID-19" ended in the spring of 2020, the end of that flu season, so, even if a real vaccine was available for it, it wouldn't work on the next immune response.
If you think anything of the above is just my opinion, you can research it for yourself.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 22, 2021 11:34:01 GMT
.... Whiffet was right towards the beginning of this thread, "This thread is embarrassing". ..... What is embarrassing? Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts. I think that people attack others because they have been confronted with information that does not agree with their opinion and, since it is an opinion, the person doesn't actually know that it's truth or not and it upsets them because a potential crack has been exposed in their "world" of perceptions. It's uncomfortable when presented with ideas that seem to make sense, but contradict what we think, so we seek resolution and are uncomfortable, depressed and/or angry until we can resolve it in some way. Sometimes the person will just choose to ignore it, unresolved, or put it on a shelf to wait for further understanding to show up. It's normal however. There is psychology that can be found on this if you want to bother investigating. Not true. Those who consider themselves to be experts will have great difficulty being open to truth or learning anything. "A mind full of conclusions has no room for expansion." Those who live knowing they are not an expert are the ones who will be the most expert in the end. They remain curious and have a continuing desire to learn. Those are the people who will become experts - yes, there are real experts who know what they're talking about ...... Jason Gallant, Matt Schifferle are a couple that come to mind that fit the above - they continue to learn which makes them experts. The saying "Curiosity killed the cat" is wrong, IMO. Curiosity is what makes cats survivors - they are paying cautious attention as they explore their world, always curious. HERE's a Psychology Today article about the curiosity of cats.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 22, 2021 11:37:28 GMT
... Mafia's dealing with the US govt is historical and well-known to those who search. So when I post assertions that Trump was deliberately ousted because of security (CIA) concerns, plus his policies directly against the last 75 years (at least) of American global expansionism and interference in democratically-elected govts around the world, and meet with an abrupt dismissal of BS, I think that it's fair to ask why the label of BS has been forwarded ? Yes, true. Sorry, m8. I reacted before I made a fair evaluation of what you were saying.
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Post by Michael on Feb 22, 2021 15:55:01 GMT
Ask Your first question to Whiffet. And the rest of what you wrote is Your opinion. That's fine and good for You.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 22, 2021 16:17:50 GMT
I recall Trump, referring to Dr. Fauci - "That's just his opinion. I disagree."
Dr. Fauci who has served under 5 presidents, received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work, has devoted his entire medical career to the study of infectious diseases. What he states is a bit more than "just his opinion". The reason a lot of people are trashing Dr. Fauci is because when he didn't go along with Trump's agenda to downplay the pandemic, Trump started a smear campaign against him, and of course, every word out of Trump's mouth is the gospel truth, right?
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Post by brothersteve on Feb 22, 2021 16:30:25 GMT
RE: ".... serious uncertainties remain, re how long the drug "lasts"...."
My dad spoke to my uncle who got the Moderna 2 shot last Thursday. Uncle told dad the shot was to be annual, like the flu shot. Not sure if my uncle understood correctly or not.
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Post by Magnus on Feb 22, 2021 16:32:01 GMT
I recall Trump, referring to Dr. Fauci - "That's just his opinion. I disagree." Dr. Fauci who has served under 5 presidents, received the Presidential Medal of Freedom for his work, has devoted his entire medical career to the study of infectious diseases. What he states is a bit more than "just his opinion". The reason a lot of people are trashing Dr. Fauci is because when he didn't go along with Trump's agenda to downplay the pandemic, Trump started a smear campaign against him, and of course, every word out of Trump's mouth is the gospel truth, right? I’ve heard more than one very qualified medical professional say that Fauci is actually much more of an ‘administrator’ than he is a doctor. I know one thing for sure, regardless of his employment history he certainly makes a lot of mistakes in his recommendations...
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Post by Magnus on Feb 22, 2021 16:37:40 GMT
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Post by Magnus on Feb 22, 2021 16:51:39 GMT
!!!! Just listening to Fauci get asked if an elderly / senior person has received the second dose of vaccine can they now visit with their unvaccinated grandkids.... Fauci’s answer was basically a dial tone. Great !!!! It’s so nice to know that Trump was the problem all along and now the dems have such a clear handle on the situation... RIDICULOUS
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Post by macky on Feb 22, 2021 19:12:59 GMT
... Mafia's dealing with the US govt is historical and well-known to those who search. So when I post assertions that Trump was deliberately ousted because of security (CIA) concerns, plus his policies directly against the last 75 years (at least) of American global expansionism and interference in democratically-elected govts around the world, and meet with an abrupt dismissal of BS, I think that it's fair to ask why the label of BS has been forwarded ? Yes, true. Sorry, m8. I reacted before I made a fair evaluation of what you were saying. No worries M8. All good.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 22, 2021 20:48:47 GMT
Dr. David E. Martin:
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Post by Magnus on Feb 22, 2021 23:05:44 GMT
Thanks, Mikey, very informative video above that reinforces concerns I've heard mentioned by other medical professionals...
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 22, 2021 23:49:53 GMT
Dr Martin might sound like kind of an asshole, but at least he seems to have his ducks in a row.
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Post by Magnus on Feb 23, 2021 3:57:45 GMT
Dr Martin might sound like kind of an asshole, but at least he seems to have his ducks in a row. Enjoyed the content but they can surely spice up the presentation a bit, like instead of having his Aussie cohort just sitting there so closely next to him, giving him a 'faux' hand-job and making faces, maybe instead have her dancing off to the side a little and taking off an article of clothing to give emphasis to his points until she's strutting around bare ass naked ?... That would be my recommendation
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