pierinifitness
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Post by pierinifitness on Sept 20, 2020 18:07:53 GMT
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Sept 20, 2020 18:26:51 GMT
Nancy Pelosi said the recent wildfires and hurricanes were due to "Mother Earth" being angry about climate change. She professes to be a good Catholic. I was raised Catholic. I never remember any of the 8 years of Catholic school religion classes I attended ever mentioning "Mother Earth".
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Post by macky on Sept 21, 2020 3:08:15 GMT
Lunacy on "both sides'.
Can't America front a couple of decent candidates instead of someone who lies constantly and is only interested in the stock market/business world, and a near-geriatric who had his day in the previous administration ?
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Post by mr potatohead on Sept 21, 2020 11:38:04 GMT
Climate change every 30 years or so on average. Always has been, always will be. Nothing humans are or have been doing has any measurable impact. Crisis over.
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Post by Magnus on Sept 21, 2020 12:31:58 GMT
Lunacy on "both sides'. Can't America front a couple of decent candidates instead of someone who lies constantly and is only interested in the stock market/business world, and a near-geriatric who had his day in the previous administration ? Unfortunately the so-called 'democrat' party has devolved and deviated into a group that no longer represents the better interests of the American working class citizens, and thus there's a lot more at stake in this election than at any other time in my life that I can think of. Sad to say that at this point it's basically down to either 'US or THEM'.... ***P.S. There's no other choice, anyone even considering Biden/Harris is beyond stupid in my opinion
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Post by pierinifitness on Sept 21, 2020 13:25:35 GMT
Welcome to my home.
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Post by macky on Sept 22, 2020 5:12:23 GMT
Lunacy on "both sides'. Can't America front a couple of decent candidates instead of someone who lies constantly and is only interested in the stock market/business world, and a near-geriatric who had his day in the previous administration ? Unfortunately the so-called 'democrat' party has devolved and deviated into a group that no longer represents the better interests of the American working class citizens, and thus there's a lot more at stake in this election than at any other time in my life that I can think of. Sad to say that at this point it's basically down to either 'US or THEM'.... ***P.S. There's no other choice, anyone even considering Biden/Harris is beyond stupid in my opinion The problems in our societies are more complicated than just comparisons between "left" and "right", which is over-simplification promoted by the MSM and other extremists. The working class as a group no longer exists in reality because the differences between classes that were much more able to be defined once are now irretrievably blurred. Technology has played a large part in jobs that were secure once, disappearing (my own included) on the back of miniaturization (chip) and robotics/machines. Containerization in shipping resulted in large numbers of watersiders being made redundant. Instead of stacking/loading on the wharf, a crane driver, and wharfies stacking in the hold, a large container crane lifts and stacks on a ship with only a few men locking the containers down. Many trains no longer have guard vans/cabooses. One driver in the cab when there were two. The unions watered down to next to no influence. What has been the greatest blow to class definition is the dissolution of the once-large middle class that was the mainstay of our societies, and which also provided financial stability to not only to wage earners, but supported small and medium businesses throughout. That's pretty much gone now, and many are finding that their academic qualifications are also irrelevant in today's job hunting. Another blow, the increased dependence of the general work-force on facet working and the accompanying lowered wages, based on govt-less regulation and rampant competition between close-by business interests. The shopping of jobs out to foreign countries because of said competition, and the loss of property thereof as houses go mortgagee-sale. As such, when you have career experienced engineers in Boeing been given the boot because the software development has been shopped to India (not to mention the manufacture of much of prescription drugs etc) then you may now have a glimmer of why those Max crashes occurred. It's not that the Indians are not good at software development, it's just they have very little experience in aviation of large passenger jets. That apparently does not matter to the corporate bean-counters and managers who are happy to collect insane exorbitant incomes. Greed unbridled. So bit by bit, we have top airline pilots here taking up driving courses for farm machinery, and competent dentists driving taxis around the place. The whole outfit is topsy turvy and it's anyone's guess what is going to happen next. Meanwhile, the gap between the few haves, and the bulk have-nots grows, and it is no longer a case of partisan right or left, it's simply a case of whether a prime minister or president and their crew are fit for the job, not only in times of "prosperity" but in times of emergency. Today there's a Republican push to vote for Biden (whether sensible or not), not because they want Biden, but because they want Trump gone. That's serious, and doesn't particularly reflect "left" or "right" sentiments or agendas. What it does reflect is a serious concern from the military and admin re Trump's irrational behaviour and mental state.
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Post by jrmeatplow on Sept 22, 2020 10:14:15 GMT
Unfortunately the so-called 'democrat' party has devolved and deviated into a group that no longer represents the better interests of the American working class citizens, and thus there's a lot more at stake in this election than at any other time in my life that I can think of. Sad to say that at this point it's basically down to either 'US or THEM'.... ***P.S. There's no other choice, anyone even considering Biden/Harris is beyond stupid in my opinion The problems in our societies are more complicated than just comparisons between "left" and "right", which is over-simplification promoted by the MSM and other extremists. The working class as a group no longer exists in reality because the differences between classes that were much more able to be defined once are now irretrievably blurred. Technology has played a large part in jobs that were secure once, disappearing (my own included) on the back of miniaturization (chip) and robotics/machines. Containerization in shipping resulted in large numbers of watersiders being made redundant. Instead of stacking/loading on the wharf, a crane driver, and wharfies stacking in the hold, a large container crane lifts and stacks on a ship with only a few men locking the containers down. Many trains no longer have guard vans/cabooses. One driver in the cab when there were two. The unions watered down to next to no influence. What has been the greatest blow to class definition is the dissolution of the once-large middle class that was the mainstay of our societies, and which also provided financial stability to not only to wage earners, but supported small and medium businesses throughout. That's pretty much gone now, and many are finding that their academic qualifications are also irrelevant in today's job hunting. Another blow, the increased dependence of the general work-force on facet working and the accompanying lowered wages, based on govt-less regulation and rampant competition between close-by business interests. The shopping of jobs out to foreign countries because of said competition, and the loss of property thereof as houses go mortgagee-sale. As such, when you have career experienced engineers in Boeing been given the boot because the software development has been shopped to India (not to mention the manufacture of much of prescription drugs etc) then you may now have a glimmer of why those Max crashes occurred. It's not that the Indians are not good at software development, it's just they have very little experience in aviation of large passenger jets. That apparently does not matter to the corporate bean-counters and managers who are happy to collect insane exorbitant incomes. Greed unbridled. So bit by bit, we have top airline pilots here taking up driving courses for farm machinery, and competent dentists driving taxis around the place. The whole outfit is topsy turvy and it's anyone's guess what is going to happen next. Meanwhile, the gap between the few haves, and the bulk have-nots grows, and it is no longer a case of partisan right or left, it's simply a case of whether a prime minister or president and their crew are fit for the job, not only in times of "prosperity" but in times of emergency. Today there's a Republican push to vote for Biden (whether sensible or not), not because they want Biden, but because they want Trump gone. That's serious, and doesn't particularly reflect "left" or "right" sentiments or agendas. What it does reflect is a serious concern from the military and admin re Trump's irrational behaviour and mental state. That "republican push" that you speak of is not from real conservatives or real patriots. Its from scum and the Military Industrial Complex. Trumps irrational behavior, and mental state, whatever.... Getting our troops out of these 3rd world dumps is so irrational it would take a mad man to want to bring the troops home and quit draining the tax payers using their money to support something thats makes others rich. Make no mistake, once one becomes a general, they are now a politician in a uniform. Trumps mental state is so far beyond the rest of theses clowns that they are always 10 steps behind.
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Post by jrmeatplow on Sept 22, 2020 10:15:46 GMT
Welcome to my home. Same for my family. Best President of my lifetime. Wish the bitches Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and Schumer would follow RBG's lead.
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Post by moxohol on Sept 22, 2020 13:05:39 GMT
Welcome to my home. Same for my family. Best President of my lifetime. Wish the bitches Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and Schumer would follow RBG's lead. Same goes for Trudeau!
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Post by pierinifitness on Sept 22, 2020 13:53:09 GMT
Went to lunch with some clients yesterday, something I'm doing a lot of as I wind down and say goodbye. At some point, President Trump discussion took place and I shared in my 40 year history of practicing my profession, I rank President Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 as being the most beneficial tax law change affecting small to large businesses. The qualified business income deduction also provided nice tax relief for those having real estate rental property holdings. I then commented on who I thought were number 2 and number 3.
I gave second place to President George W. Bush's 2003 Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003. It created favorable tax treatment of what are called qualified dividends and capital gains from the sale of capital assets.
I gave third place to President Ronald Reagan's Economic Recovery Tax Act of 1981.
All three of them fellas wore red turtlenecks, not those ugly blue ones.
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Post by macky on Sept 22, 2020 19:51:00 GMT
That "republican push" that you speak of is not from real conservatives or real patriots. Its from scum and the Military Industrial Complex. Trumps irrational behavior, and mental state, whatever.... Getting our troops out of these 3rd world dumps is so irrational it would take a mad man to want to bring the troops home and quit draining the tax payers using their money to support something thats makes others rich. Make no mistake, once one becomes a general, they are now a politician in a uniform. Trumps mental state is so far beyond the rest of theses clowns that they are always 10 steps behind. The Lincoln Project for one, is a serious organized effort to thwart Trump's re-election. What are "real conservatives or patriots" ? And words such as "scum" are just general descriptions to describe people one doesn't like. That's okay, everybody's entitled to their opinion. The Military Industrial Complex is and always was alive and well in America. Congress (Republican majority) voted recently (routinely) for some 600 billion towards military interests, which continues America spending more on the military than the next ten nations combined (including China), and with nearly 800 military bases of some sort or other around the Globe. The draining of tax payers money continues, authorized essentially by Republicans. We all know who gets rich on war, and that hasn't changed. Bringing troops home from places they never should have been in the first place ("WMD" etc be damned, and the 9-11 hoax) should have therefore been done immediately after Trump got in three years ago if it was a solid part of his agenda, and not some vote-getting strategy late in his first term. Trump's irrational statements are there for all to see on videos no matter said video's sources. There is a growing record of such utterances that denote someone who is not (always) in command of reality. The latest blurb is Trump publicly speculating that RBG's last words reported by her niece was a Dem jack-up. I suppose Trump's utterance that the Covid 19 was a Dem hoax some months ago was certainly not irrational ? That he was in full command of his senses when he assured everyone that "it'll just go away". That the fires on the West coast "they'll start to get cooler" etc etc. Hey look, I'm not the one who's voting for or against Trump. You guys are and if you like him, go for it. I don't think his opposition is much either in the shape of Biden. He needs to retire gracefully. Pelosi's off her trolley. Things are not looking all that splendid for the country if that's all the US can front for prez.
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Post by Magnus on Sept 22, 2020 22:26:53 GMT
I suppose Trump's utterance that the Covid 19 was a Dem hoax some months ago was certainly not irrational ? Trump never said Covid 19 was a hoax. Here are Trump’s exact words on the topic at the South Carolina rally: "Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa, they can’t even count. No they can’t. They can’t count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that. ".... In context, Trump did not say in the passage above that the virus itself was a hoax. He instead said that Democrats’ criticism of his administration’s response to it was a hoax. He muddied the waters a few minutes later, however, by comparing the number of coronavirus fatalities in the U.S. (none, at that point in time) to the number of fatalities during an average flu season, and accusing the press of being in “hysteria mode”: www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/
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Post by macky on Sept 22, 2020 22:34:19 GMT
I'm happy to say I was wrong on the Dem hoax thing, Mags. Quoting from media is always not totally reliable. Some sources I would say deliberately distort statements.
Honestly, do you think there's anything of substance or evidential fact in the two paragraphs you've quoted, from Trump ? It's all rambling nonsense. Surely you can see that ?
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Post by Magnus on Sept 23, 2020 1:08:20 GMT
Honestly, do you think there's anything of substance or evidential fact in the two paragraphs you've quoted, from Trump ? It's all rambling nonsense. Surely you can see that ? I dunno, to my way of thinking it was nonsensical for the dems to think they could impeach Trump for wanting to look into the Biden criminal families dealings in Ukraine, especially after dumb-ass Joe Biden himself admitted on tape that he was guilty of the 'quid pro quoi' that the dems were attempting to impeach Trump for ?...
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