Michael
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Post by Michael on Jul 2, 2020 21:23:27 GMT
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 2, 2020 21:39:31 GMT
What are "Bat Wings"?
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Jul 2, 2020 21:52:15 GMT
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Jul 2, 2020 22:21:14 GMT
I got my almost standard daily e-mail (yes, a man e-mailed me) today from Bill Hinbern's Super Strength Training website. It was about a similar exercise he called the Seal Row. It was described like this:
"Back in the 1960s I fooled around with any type of exercise that I saw in the magazines and even came up with a few exercise positions of my own.
Although I never saw it in a magazine, one such exercise I tried was for the rear deltoids.
Today, it has become popular and even has a name…
“The Seal Row.”
It is an upper back isolation exercise that may be used in the event that there is discomfort in the lower back.
Here is how it is done…
Place a barbell perpendicular under your flat bench.
Lie face down, length wise, on the bench, let your chin hang over the edge of one end, and your legs straight out over the other end.
Now reach down, grasp the bar using an over hand grip with both hands, proceed to pull the bar up as far as you can, and return the barbell to the floor.
This exercise can also be done with one arm, using one dumbbell, or two arms, using two dumbbells.
After performing several reps, you will realize how this exercise got its name.
Your legs will try to counter balance the action of your upper body by going up and down like a seal’s tale.
You may want to cross your ankles to not only keep your legs on your bench, but to prevent them from moving wildly from side to side."
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Post by stuke on Jul 4, 2020 7:20:22 GMT
Looks like a regular supported bent over row. |
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jul 4, 2020 15:22:27 GMT
It's pretty similar to other lifting stuff Pavel promotes, so I guess it's probably fine if you are lifting to assist another activity and stay fresh and not so good if you just want to get big and strong. I bet if someone is missing one element though and then starts putting it in then it makes a big difference.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jul 4, 2020 15:24:26 GMT
Dan John uses quote marks instead of bold/italics and it's driving me mad.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 4, 2020 19:18:30 GMT
Dan John uses quote marks instead of bold/italics and it's driving me mad. mutley:*snigger* I have read and listened to Dan John a number of times. I've found only two things that have been useful to me, as sometimes happens, so I no longer pay any attention to him, but these two priority recommendations have been quite valuable to me: 1.Loaded carries 2.Squats as he rates them in his Top 5, as basic to my good exercise menu. I don't remember #'s 3, 4 & 5, but, as Dave notes above, those are covered incidentally by just doing what I do. |
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Jul 4, 2020 21:29:04 GMT
It's pretty similar to other lifting stuff Pavel promotes, so I guess it's probably fine if you are lifting to assist another activity and stay fresh and not so good if you just want to get big and strong. I bet if someone is missing one element though and then starts putting it in then it makes a big difference. You'r right Dave. The concept is practicing strength and getting strong over the long haul. You're doing a little bit almost daily and not pushing any limits. It's not for hypertrophy. I was just curious the thoughts from some guys here about the concept and if they tried it. I have done Pavel's KB stuff but that's a little different. It probably makes no sense to say why I was curious  . |
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Post by vegetus25 on Jul 4, 2020 23:13:54 GMT
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Post by Dave Reslo on Jul 4, 2020 23:22:27 GMT
Yeah I wish I could say I'd tried it, I guess if you're doing five different exercises compared with say Power to the People where it's just two then maybe you get more general carryover. I've just personally found "practicing a lift" sometimes only gets you better at that lift, as much as the progress makes it tempting.
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Jul 5, 2020 0:06:25 GMT
Thanks for posting that Vegetus. Dave, that practicing a lift thing getting You better at that lift makes sense. Thanks for Your input, much appreciated!
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Post by mrdave100 on Jul 5, 2020 5:15:56 GMT
Yes, I made good gains on it after only a few weeks. My progress was so good in fact, I switched programs.  The program works and I have had similar results to others that have tried it in that it really works for all the pressing movements. Deadlifts are hit or miss, for me it was a home run and Squats seem to be the one exercise that doesn’t respond well to the program and DJ even has said this in recent years. That first link you posted is his old site, but in the blog section (where that article is located) are 81 pages with 5 articles on each page. It’s great reading and lots of great insights into training and many other things. I’m a big fan of his ideas and I understand why he’s so highly regarded and sought after by elite athletes. Mike, here is a link to some experiment that was run on ES. danjohn.net/wp-content/uploads/EasyStrengthPaper.pdfSine the program is pretty intuitive, it’s what I followed. It gives you a better idea of how much of percentage increase/decrease from set to set, day to day, and week to week. |
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Michael
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Post by Michael on Jul 5, 2020 12:11:30 GMT
Thanks, Mr. Dave! I like Dan John's ideas and stuff. I'd be a hypocrite to say I have tried his programs but his ideas I have. I do have his lone KB book and it's pretty good. , have read a lot of articles on his blog, and agree. I may give this a go sometime in August. Did You lose endurance or size on this program? If so how much of a loss was it? |
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Post by mrdave100 on Jul 5, 2020 16:04:32 GMT
Did You lose endurance or size on this program? If so how much of a loss was it? I didn’t notice a loss in mass and wasn’t on it long enough to affect endurance. The only time I have ever experienced a loss in endurance is when I transitioned from “singles” based programs to the typical rep/set programs. |
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The program works and I have had similar results to others that have tried it in that it really works for all the pressing movements. Deadlifts are hit or miss, for me it was a home run and Squats seem to be the one exercise that doesn’t respond well to the program and DJ even has said this in recent years.
