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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 26, 2020 15:54:48 GMT
It had been building for some time. I'd experience a bit of pain in my left elbow doing triceps exercise. And then there was a bit of grinding. And then, BAM! I cannot do any pushing or triceps exercises. I can, however, do Kin Shi-Hai Do triceps exercises. I'm glad I created Kin Shi-Hai Do. Yes! The great I! After having done a full blown KSHD workout yesterday, I am now experiencing that day-after pump. So, at least I've got that going for me. Well, I guess this is my opportunity to see exactly what a sole diet of KSHD will do. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 26, 2020 21:01:33 GMT
Doing iso-type exercise, tendon/connective tissue will be enhanced more than muscles will, IMO.
This is why I quit doing reps with "heavier" weights or any weight at all. My highest number of reps is done with Qigong - no weight at all, just swiveling/swinging around the waist.
I use lighter weight (like 110# for between legs lift with KB) or BW (like squat, dip or hangs with twists and one slow pullup) and just hold/pause in positions.
I was tired of joint pain jumping around my body.
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Post by fredhutch on Mar 26, 2020 21:53:26 GMT
Elbows can be a bitch. I screwed up my right elbow years ago by doing excessive draw and cut practice with the katana, it took years for it to get better, even now I have to warm it up carefully or it will "lock" with the arm nearly straight and it hurts like hell.
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Post by Michael on Mar 26, 2020 22:06:51 GMT
I had bad golfer's elbow years ago and haven't had it since. The KSHD You're doing will definitely help Your elbow also. Even though I didn't do the exact exercises You're probably doing, that's how I stopped the golfer's elbow. For me, isometrics aggravated it. Everyone is different. Some injuries I always seem to like higher reps with Your bands or lightweight.
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Post by Silverlooks on Mar 26, 2020 23:44:53 GMT
I agree, KSHD is much safer to injured joints than overcoming isometrics.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 27, 2020 10:05:51 GMT
I agree, KSHD is much safer to injured joints than overcoming isometrics. Wouldn't that depend on the amount of tension applied? I do understand that, the way you do them all-out, it could be a strain for someone who is not used to doing them that way. I don't time my overcoming (or any) isometrics. I monitor how they feel. I don't know what 50%, 75% or 100% means, but I know how it feels when I've reached the let off point and I don't do 100%'ers. |
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Post by Silverlooks on Mar 27, 2020 15:13:27 GMT
I agree, KSHD is much safer to injured joints than overcoming isometrics. Wouldn't that depend on the amount of tension applied? I do understand that, the way you do them all-out, it could be a strain for someone who is not used to doing them that way. I don't time my overcoming (or any) isometrics. I monitor how they feel. I don't know what 50%, 75% or 100% means, but I know how it feels when I've reached the let off point and I don't do 100%'ers. You're correct, I somehow assumed overcoming isometrics means necessarily going full intensity, which isn't true. Going 100% for a long duration, especially with the hook where no compensation for hand/wrist discomfort happens, is serious on the joints just like weight lifting. |
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 27, 2020 16:39:42 GMT
Had a great KSHD workout this morning. There is something very meditative about this form of exercise. And, of course, I have to wear one of my official Kin Shi-Hai Do Tee Shirts with each workout. |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Mar 28, 2020 2:26:22 GMT
Is it the joint, muscle or tendon that you injured?
I gave myself some tennis elbow doing triceps pushdowns with bands a while ago. I had the bands secured overhead and pushed down like with a triceps cable pushdown exercise. I think the problem may have been caused by straightening the arms too much?
It took ages for the problem to go away, partly because it would get irritated at work. Anyway, I haven't done the exercise since.
I'm only doing isometrics now with a bullworker and a length of cord.
Exercising a limb in the same position as the injury occurred can prolong the agony. When isometrics are used to rehab an injury, the position used is near the point where pain occurs but not in the pain position.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 28, 2020 2:40:39 GMT
Thank you for that, O, Prodigal Bruv. I don't know what I injured. It just hurts. But the KSHD is working well. I can exercise my left triceps.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 28, 2020 18:18:56 GMT
Is it the joint, muscle or tendon that you injured? I gave myself some tennis elbow doing triceps pushdowns with bands a while ago. I had the bands secured overhead and pushed down like with a triceps cable pushdown exercise. I think the problem may have been caused by straightening the arms too much? It took ages for the problem to go away, partly because it would get irritated at work. Anyway, I haven't done the exercise since. I'm only doing isometrics now with a bullworker and a length of cord. Exercising a limb in the same position as the injury occurred can prolong the agony. When isometrics are used to rehab an injury, the position used is near the point where pain occurs but not in the pain position. You got me to thinking. This morning I tried pushing down on a Bullworker handle and was able to do so with moderate to heavy force with no pain. I now know that it is when I do a triceps exercise in the blade hand position that it hurts my elbow. Triceps extensions are a killer. I tried combining KSHD triceps pushdowns with bands using moderate resistance, not going all the way down, and I was able to do so with no pain. Great! I will now incorporate bands and moderate weights into my KSHD workouts. |
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Post by stormshadow on Apr 2, 2020 21:28:15 GMT
Many people with elbow pain have benefitted greatly from concentrated, direct forearm work. The thing that is puzzling about you is that you are a forearm training maniac. Maybe just overuse and taper off for a while
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Apr 2, 2020 21:31:18 GMT
Many people with elbow pain have benefitted greatly from concentrated, direct forearm work. The thing that is puzzling about you is that you are a forearm training maniac. Maybe just overuse and taper off for a while Yes, I work out my forearms every other day. And, actually, my elbow is much better. Maybe I just pulled something. |
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