An Interesting Bit found on the Transformetrics FB Page
Mar 24, 2020 17:41:49 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Mar 24, 2020 17:41:49 GMT
John Taylor wrote:
That was an awesome story you told on your forum, John, about your Uncle Milo having been the model for Mclelland Barclay’s World War II recruitment poster, “Man the Guns – Join the Navy”, a link to which was posted in your topic (there is no “Man the Guns Boys”).
John Peterson wrote:
“In 1943, Milo was featured on a recruiting poster in which he was loading a 45-pound shell into one of the huge guns on a ship. The caption said, "Man the Guns Boys". Milo's flawless physique was perfectly displayed. “
Unfortunately, your story is a complete fabrication. Here is the REAL story behind Mclelland Barclay’s painting, from the Naval History and Heritage Command:
Theron MacKay, gunners mate, recalls meeting Barclay in 1943: "Me and another crew member were cleaning a gun, so we were bare from the waist up. Barclay had his sketchpad and was drawing us. Being an amateur artist myself, I took an interest in what he was doing and asked could I look over his shoulder? Well, he made us look like the finest human specimens that ever were! Really, we were skinny kids with our ribs hanging out. I said to him, 'I don't look like that!' and he answered, 'Well, if I sketched you like you are, it wouldn't make much of recruiting poster, now would it?'"
www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/art/exhibits/conflicts-and-operations/wwii/the-art-of-mcclelland-barclay/sailor-loading-fixed-ammunition.html?fbclid=IwAR2aZR_TyIJ3AVOg_2TCwB_jozjwFn5Jir7xUiyRti38OBvAYXUdgNAlj0E
transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18236
Also, in that thread, I love the way John dances around his members' clamor to see photos of Uncle Milo. John's excuse for no existing photos of Uncle Milo is priceless!
That was an awesome story you told on your forum, John, about your Uncle Milo having been the model for Mclelland Barclay’s World War II recruitment poster, “Man the Guns – Join the Navy”, a link to which was posted in your topic (there is no “Man the Guns Boys”).
John Peterson wrote:
“In 1943, Milo was featured on a recruiting poster in which he was loading a 45-pound shell into one of the huge guns on a ship. The caption said, "Man the Guns Boys". Milo's flawless physique was perfectly displayed. “
Unfortunately, your story is a complete fabrication. Here is the REAL story behind Mclelland Barclay’s painting, from the Naval History and Heritage Command:
Theron MacKay, gunners mate, recalls meeting Barclay in 1943: "Me and another crew member were cleaning a gun, so we were bare from the waist up. Barclay had his sketchpad and was drawing us. Being an amateur artist myself, I took an interest in what he was doing and asked could I look over his shoulder? Well, he made us look like the finest human specimens that ever were! Really, we were skinny kids with our ribs hanging out. I said to him, 'I don't look like that!' and he answered, 'Well, if I sketched you like you are, it wouldn't make much of recruiting poster, now would it?'"
www.history.navy.mil/our-collections/art/exhibits/conflicts-and-operations/wwii/the-art-of-mcclelland-barclay/sailor-loading-fixed-ammunition.html?fbclid=IwAR2aZR_TyIJ3AVOg_2TCwB_jozjwFn5Jir7xUiyRti38OBvAYXUdgNAlj0E
transformetrics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18236
Also, in that thread, I love the way John dances around his members' clamor to see photos of Uncle Milo. John's excuse for no existing photos of Uncle Milo is priceless!
Cecil Simmons wrote:
Friends, I think John once said Milo was too skinny for the day. Muscular but skinny. I can believe it. You know how type II diabetes and obesity were running rampant during WWII. So a skinny fit guy like Milo would probably been shunned by society, hence no photos. Bottom line, if any photos existed they were destroyed to not call ridicule upon Milo in the same way we don't joke about special needs people today.
Friends, I think John once said Milo was too skinny for the day. Muscular but skinny. I can believe it. You know how type II diabetes and obesity were running rampant during WWII. So a skinny fit guy like Milo would probably been shunned by society, hence no photos. Bottom line, if any photos existed they were destroyed to not call ridicule upon Milo in the same way we don't joke about special needs people today.
John Taylor wrote:
Yes, on the one hand Peterson says, “Milo's flawless physique was perfectly displayed.” And, “That was a beautiful illustration and yes My Uncle and several other young men with the right body type posed for photos that were used by illustrators for the purpose of recruiting posters. And YES!!!! that is very close to the type of physique my Uncle Milo had. He was 6'3" and weighed only 210 pounds because he had such a tiny waistline. He was extremely triangular in his physique.”
On the otherhand, Peterson says, “If I had a photo of Milo I would do it in a heartbeat. The truth is that back when I was a little kid even though he had what I believe to be a perfect physique, being that ripped, at that time was not something to which bodybuilders aspired. Because of that, there were people that thought that Milo was too skinny.”
(Hence, sorry guys, no pics of Uncle Milo. Not one. Never allowed himself to be photographed. Not with friends or family members. Not at celebrations, Christmas and Birthdays, not at family gatherings, picnics, barbecues. Not one pic. All because people thought Uncle Milo was too skinny)
So which is it? Was Uncle Milo the most perfect specimen to ever walk the face of the earth? From the looks of the sailor in that painting, he certainly was. Or was he too skinny and Mclelland Barclay took artistic liberties? Can’t have it both ways.
This is all moot, anyway, as it has already been proven that Peterson concocted this story. I suppose he figured it was a long time ago and the artist is long dead, so there’d be no way to investigate the validity of his story. Too bad there’s no way to research all the rest of his wonderful stories.
Yes, on the one hand Peterson says, “Milo's flawless physique was perfectly displayed.” And, “That was a beautiful illustration and yes My Uncle and several other young men with the right body type posed for photos that were used by illustrators for the purpose of recruiting posters. And YES!!!! that is very close to the type of physique my Uncle Milo had. He was 6'3" and weighed only 210 pounds because he had such a tiny waistline. He was extremely triangular in his physique.”
On the otherhand, Peterson says, “If I had a photo of Milo I would do it in a heartbeat. The truth is that back when I was a little kid even though he had what I believe to be a perfect physique, being that ripped, at that time was not something to which bodybuilders aspired. Because of that, there were people that thought that Milo was too skinny.”
(Hence, sorry guys, no pics of Uncle Milo. Not one. Never allowed himself to be photographed. Not with friends or family members. Not at celebrations, Christmas and Birthdays, not at family gatherings, picnics, barbecues. Not one pic. All because people thought Uncle Milo was too skinny)
So which is it? Was Uncle Milo the most perfect specimen to ever walk the face of the earth? From the looks of the sailor in that painting, he certainly was. Or was he too skinny and Mclelland Barclay took artistic liberties? Can’t have it both ways.
This is all moot, anyway, as it has already been proven that Peterson concocted this story. I suppose he figured it was a long time ago and the artist is long dead, so there’d be no way to investigate the validity of his story. Too bad there’s no way to research all the rest of his wonderful stories.