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Pain
Mar 10, 2020 12:04:55 GMT
Post by scottcool on Mar 10, 2020 12:04:55 GMT
How do you manage pain? chronic or temporary. I struggle with neck pain, shoulder pain, and headaches from a previous neck and shoulder injury. Then lower back/ hip pain from my job. Then pair in the pain from the occasional workout injury. How do you manage the pain? I supplement different vitamins, and CBD to help with the joint pain and soreness, I use hand held massagers when needed. I also make sure to get as much sleep as possible paired with making sure I have good pillows, bedding to help me rest and ect.
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Post by trog on Mar 10, 2020 15:34:00 GMT
I have two main areas that give me grief, knees and lower back. The first was the result of a motorbike crash in the early 1990s and the second was lifting a 5kg piece of computing equipment off the floor, also back in the early 1990s. Back then I was the original 7 stone weakling, smoke and drinking and living on crap. Now I'm quite fit (very according to some in the gym). To cope with knee pain, I don't do heavy squats and if it starts to hurt too much (usually in dance class), I cut the class short and gracefully exit. I tried TENS for awhile - I don't know if it helped or if it was the lighter squats and more concerted effort to improve my ballet technique. Knee pain isn't too bad these days. Back pain is much worse. At work I use a BackApp chair. I also get up and go for a walk around the campus as often as possible. At home, I stand up a lot, especially when watching TV, or I sit on a Swiss ball. In the gym, I always do about 5 minutes of seated twists; pole on the shoulders and twist from the waist. If it gets really bad, I use my old motorbike kidney belt and some mild pain killers, but I'm not really a fan of drugs, so I avoid them.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 10, 2020 15:44:43 GMT
I use diet first, then supplementation and exercise depending on the specific issues involved.
Note how you feel after eating certain foods. If they make you hurt more, stop eating them and substitute healthier options. Fish, like sardines packed in water (not oils or sauces) might feel good. Once diet is working, high dose Vitamin D + calcium, high dose curcumin/turmeric, fresh fish oil, magnesium/epsom salt/mineral baths, glucosamine/chondroitin, collagen and, as you mention, CBD. Every one is different. You will probably need to experiment and be open to try things and to change things over time as your body changes. Simple Qigong arm-swing/twisting may be helpful, but should be begun and ended gently at each session (or "set" if you do exercise like that). There are other gentle twisting exercises that you may find helpful too. Be open to experiment, but don't do, or immediately stop doing, any exercise that causes discomfort. These are some things that seem to have helped me.
Calling Dr Tyna Moore.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 10, 2020 15:53:53 GMT
Also, I've found isometrics to be helpful when focused on the areas of pain. Like, for shoulders, the Isometric Doorway OHP is the fastest cure I've found. Dead hangs or hangs with twists feel good to me too.
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Post by Michael on Mar 10, 2020 22:42:01 GMT
I agree with what Mr. P said, "I use diet first, then supplementation and exercise depending on the specific issues involved." Sugar and processed foods can cause a lot of problems. Have You been to a doctor? It's great getting ideas that may help, I've got plenty of good ideas that have helped me. But be careful because no one here knows what is the extent of Your injuries. I would also say that workout pain could be because of a number of reasons that only You may know. Watch the weight You use, Your form, and if You have serious injuries consider taking time to rest from the normal thing You do. Just do therapeutic stuff. From doing tree work and other manual labor jobs I've had many injuries. This is some of the stuff that I do that helps me. I've never had neck pain but it use to get sore from tree work. I do neck self-resistance exercises or isometrics twice a week whenever I have time. They don't take long at all. I do a forward, backward, and neck turn. I never do side to side neck turns because they jack up my neck, I've heard others mention the same. This only takes 2-3 minutes depending on what I feel like doing. For shoulders, elbows, wrists, and lower back, I hang from a bar every day whenever I can. I always work the rear and side delt after I'm done with my presses. Most of the time I just do this as maintenance. I do prefer Bruce's cables over isometrics if my shoulders acted up. The reason being, it feels better to me and in all the therapy I've had it was always weights and bands. But I will say the Isometric Doorway Overhead Press feels good. For my lower back, I do the Stuart McGill Big 3 every morning: www.elitefts.com/training-logs/the-mcgill-big-three/ In the evening I do this kind of stuff: Neither takes long and for me being proactive with my lower back has worked wonders for me.
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Post by mr potatohead on Mar 11, 2020 4:42:05 GMT
...... I struggle with neck pain, shoulder pain, and headaches from a previous neck and shoulder injury. ...... For this, I recommend that you talk with some professionals whom you trust to have your concerns and situation as their top priority and not their own bank account. Here is a video by Dr Tyna ("Tina") Moore, the lady I mentioned earlier: "Food & Gut! How the foods you eat impact your pain with Dr. Tyna Moore"
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Mar 11, 2020 6:26:18 GMT
Post by macky on Mar 11, 2020 6:26:18 GMT
Good advice above. I had quite chronic lower back pain which disappeared after getting into sufficient reps of Ping Shuai (Swinging Arms Chi Kung).
Around 500 is a good set to do. That will take about 15 minutes, with standing quietly for a short while after. All to be done in a relaxed manner, no tension. Twice a day is better.
There's plenty of info in my training log.
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Post by machinehead on Mar 11, 2020 13:12:57 GMT
You try turmeric? www.bornfitness.com/how-to-use-turmeric/"Research on curcumin is making it harder and harder to deny its benefits. Most supplements are as reliable as my Magic 8-ball. (Everyone under 30 is currently Googling “What is a Magic 8-ball?”). Lots of hype, but once tested under the rigors (and typically unbiased nature) of science, the outlook is not so good. But, that’s where curcumin is breaking the mold. There’s already substantial research showing curcumin can help with everything from inflammation, to fighting pain (as effective as 2000 mg of acetaminophen), and might be effective at helping prevent diseases like prostate cancer."
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Mar 11, 2020 15:20:16 GMT
Post by Bob50 on Mar 11, 2020 15:20:16 GMT
High amplitude self-resistance exercises with belts/stick and KSHD work well for me. They help me to keep good flexibility, speed, and sufficient for my life strength. Due to these exercises, I can work with soil on my backyard without knee bending at my almost 70.
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Mar 12, 2020 13:22:38 GMT
Post by Dave Reslo on Mar 12, 2020 13:22:38 GMT
Sometimes when part of me hurts I find that contracting particular muscles helps. For example, when I was training for stone lifting my elbows hurt a lot, but I found out that by lightly tensing something in the inside crook of my elbow (not sure what exactly) I was somehow able to relieve the pain. The basic standing exercises in yiquan, which involve conscious physical relaxation, also helped me a lot.
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Post by fredhutch on Mar 12, 2020 14:18:11 GMT
Much as I dislike doctors, if you have neck, shoulder and head issues, you really should get an MRI...should find out, if you can,exactly what is wrong in there, ie, is it pinched nerves or herniated disks or misalignment or what. Then with that information you could probably figure out better what to do.
I think some pain comes from actual damage, other times it comes from weakness in a body area, and that weakness in turn can come from muscles that are hard to reach with specific training, or from blocked nerve pathways, or both. As an example of weakness causing pain, I had very painful knees for years, it only got better when I read in the "Whartons Strength Book" that certain stabilizing muscles in the knee are only activated in the top position of the leg extension, and then only if you hold that position for at least three seconds. So I started doing holds in the lockout position of the leg extension, just with the leg at first and working up to five minutes, then with added weight for shorter holds. My knees never hurt again after I did these for a while and I still do them every day at the end of my workout, currently using 30 pounds for a hold of ten seconds or so. So the knee pain was really just because there was weakness in there that wasn't getting addressed by doing squats and such.
I had really bad pain about halfway up the back about seven years ago, I tried all the usual approaches with no benefit; for example, I tried hanging on the chin bar to stretch it out and it only made it worse. Finally I did two things which really helped: took to sleeping on the floor, you can find info on this online, according to it's proponents this is better for your back and internal organs and I agree, you actually have more pain the first few days because your vertebrae are going back into position but then the back is much better. I will never sleep in a bed again unless it's with Kim Basinger. Woof. In fact you might look into your sleeping position for neck and shoulder issues too, now that I think about it. The other thing I did was start doing backbends, nothing extreme, just what I could do, I think these helped the back also.
I had herniated disks in the neck twice, first time I had surgery to get the excess crap out of there, and had two vertebrae fused together; second time it wasn't as bad and got over it by myself. If I had it to do over again I would probably fix things myself the first time too, but I was younger then and still had some faith in doctors.
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Mar 24, 2020 10:36:35 GMT
Post by Mr Average on Mar 24, 2020 10:36:35 GMT
Well last year I got sciatica and all I did was look up the correct stretches to relieve the pain and 3 weeks later it was all cleared up. I still kept working throughout, which probably helped with the recovery as well.
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Mar 29, 2020 17:23:26 GMT
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Post by stormshadow on Mar 29, 2020 17:23:26 GMT
You got some excellent advice. If you practice meditation you can use your mind to not focus on it and reduce it. The pain now has a megaphone and is screaming in your ear. If you use different mind exercises like meditation, self hypnosis ,Chi Kung you can temper it so it is a weak voiced child barely whispering in your ear. Deep breathing relaxation therapies are also very good.
Even a simple repeated mantra like you are a part of my life, but you are only a whisper and I am happy to barely hear you.
Unfortunately nerve pain is very difficult to eliminate completely. I stopped doing BJJ because so many people were getting cervical issues that were becoming permanent. Good luck and stay positive.
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Mar 29, 2020 17:26:50 GMT
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Post by stormshadow on Mar 29, 2020 17:26:50 GMT
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