pierinifitness
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Post by pierinifitness on Feb 16, 2020 17:25:06 GMT
My experience is that my brain and body won’t let me do what’s not currently do-able or exposes me to injury. I realize elite athletes can hack this protection firewall. I’m not an elite athlete so judge I’ll continue being safe and generally injury-free.
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Post by stormshadow on Feb 16, 2020 20:46:27 GMT
I enjoyed this thread. Bruce a Chinese Master is usually referred to as Shifu or Sifu.
Not to be confused with the Sifu Diet
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Post by gruntbrain on Feb 17, 2020 0:45:29 GMT
Use your Google machine to search for hormesis . It's a physiological principle (roughly : what does not destroy me makes me stronger) that even old folks can exploit.
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Feb 17, 2020 1:00:19 GMT
Use your Google machine to search for hormesis . It's a physiological principle (roughly : what does not destroy me makes me stronger) that even old folks can exploit. The part that most people underestimate is how much time their body will take to adapt and get stronger. Or that recovery always takes the same amount of time each time.
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Post by chanduthemagician on Feb 17, 2020 17:01:16 GMT
Something not mentioned in the video is the impact of added bodyweight and girth in aging declining performance, particularly knees. My knees hurt 40 lbs. ago and now, they may slightly feel worked even if I do a 6-mile running workout, 100 BW squats, 100 burpees or a double KB rack squat workout. A lot harder doing pull-ups at 210 lbs. compared to 170 lbs. I was able to bang out 5 pull-ups at 210 lbs. and that caught the attention of some gym folks, particularly those who were grunting while banging out cheat reps using the lat pulldown machine loaded to the max. I've been waffling from 195 to 210, currently at 210 and yes I can tell even that 15 lbs on my pullups. Pullups are a good guage for that reason that you are getting too heavy for your own good. I can get so heavy I can't do pullups and build my best bench simultaneously and that is a direction many take and don't think about the health consequences of. I am shooting for 180 and going to work in earnest on a one arm pullup. Oh, and... I'm a 51 year old in my 52nd year, working on developing my thick face and black heart.
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Post by chanduthemagician on Feb 17, 2020 18:02:02 GMT
The car metaphor ignores the self healing of humans That's why we have freaking auto mechanics! And one way we are like cars, some of us are better made than others to withstand the punishment we take on the road of life.
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Post by Michael on Feb 17, 2020 18:25:27 GMT
I've been waffling from 195 to 210, currently at 210 and yes I can tell even that 15 lbs on my pullups. Pullups are a good guage for that reason that you are getting too heavy for your own good. I can get so heavy I can't do pullups and build my best bench simultaneously and that is a direction many take and don't think about the health consequences of. I am shooting for 180 and going to work in earnest on a one arm pullup. Oh, and... I'm a 51 year old in my 52nd year, working on developing my thick face and black heart. Chandu, I'll be pulling for You to get to 180 lbs and the one arm pull-up. Hope it's a fun journey for You.
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Post by pierinifitness on Feb 18, 2020 0:22:30 GMT
One advantage to being an older man who takes fitness training fairly seriously and trains diligently is how easy it is to be in the upper 5 to 10 percentile for our age group, however you measure it. Much tougher to do as an almost-man high school kid or a young man age 30 or below. I don't know what my upper percentile is but it's definitely a lot more upper than it was 50 years ago.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 18, 2020 14:44:30 GMT
That's why we have freaking auto mechanics! And one way we are like cars, some of us are better made than others to withstand the punishment we take on the road of life. We can buy a new, different car with more OEM durability, but we can't buy a new, different body with more OEM durability.
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Post by pierinifitness on Feb 18, 2020 16:04:49 GMT
I like the car analogy and have used one too. With a higher level of cardiovascular conditioning, I feel like a 66 Chevrolet Super Sport with a 396 cubic inch engine cruising by a neighborhood with a 25 mph speed limit; I'm hardly working. I like this feeling.
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Post by bob44 on Feb 18, 2020 22:37:14 GMT
I still enjoy taking my workouts for a ride each day. I am a lot more content to cruise, maybe too content, where I use to love going pedal to the metal for my workouts. And I have noticed I backfire a lot more.
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Post by trog on Feb 18, 2020 23:33:28 GMT
Oh, Gawd! I have restrained myself and fought the urge for the longest time, but I...……...I...……...just can't hold it back any longer.... I AM NOW IN MY 72nd YEAR!!
I was 63 yesterday and decided to see if I could do alternative sets of chinups and dips to match my age. Yep! sure can!
I basically work myself to a crisp in the gym, but I don't lift very heavy weights. I know some people consider the bench press a measure of strength - 40kgs is enough for my 4 sets of 10 with 30 seconds rest between sets. Speed is what wears me out. I've generally done 4 sets and moved on while most have done one set and are either fiddling with their phone or chatting to their friends.
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Post by pierinifitness on Feb 19, 2020 0:16:59 GMT
I still enjoy taking my workouts for a ride each day. I am a lot more content to cruise, maybe too content, where I use to love going pedal to the metal for my workouts. And I have noticed I backfire a lot more. Bob, so long as you're workout engine is blowing blue smoke out of your rear end from burning oil, you're doing good so keep marching forward!
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Post by chanduthemagician on Feb 20, 2020 4:46:42 GMT
My experience is that my brain and body won’t let me do what’s not currently do-able or exposes me to injury. I realize elite athletes can hack this protection firewall. I’m not an elite athlete so judge I’ll continue being safe and generally injury-free. I've had some instruction in that. One way to do it was depth jumps. You can do depth jumps and catch yourself within a few inches, yet you can't contract in that short range of motion and jump nearly as high. This was an Eastern block technique that was brought to the US in the 1980's . Stefan Fernholm, representative for Bigger Faster Stronger did a depth jump from 14 feet in height. I've seen a photo of it and was taught the same technique. I did up to 5 feet. I don't recommend it. Too much risk.
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Post by Bob50 on Feb 20, 2020 19:18:35 GMT
Just do what you can do without any harm.
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