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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 19, 2019 2:35:17 GMT
...... I've recently also realized that for more effective training muscles should not have a break through the set . They should keep ~constant high muscle tension (80-90% of max). I think I agree, assuming you're referring to TUT, but I'm not sure about the percent of max thing. EDIT: OK, I just realized what didn't sound right to me. "... more effective training ....."? Perhaps you meant " efficient". I don't believe taking a longer time to apply the tension (by doing reps and sets) is less effective than one effort to near failure, which I think it is more efficient/saves time. I don't know anything about percent of max, or how I would determine that, or why I would care to ..... because; When I do holding type exercises, like a dip or a hang or during a carry with regard to arms, I just go until I begin to feel a tolerable bit of aching or burning. The more often I do them (like the dip and the hang every day), the more I tune into the feeling of when to quit so I can do them again later or tomorrow. Only? Bands, like The Hook, make possible some very large ROM exercises that remain under tension the entire time during a yielding iso. I do them ... (one of those exercises is a face pull/snow angel/yielding isometric/combo kind of thing for back. Thanks to jrg for the inspiration). I just don't count reps since I pause or 'work' an area to get the feeling I want and probably only do a few reps total anyway.
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Bob50
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Post by Bob50 on Jul 20, 2019 15:17:24 GMT
From my opinion, rubber bands do not provide constant muscle tension through the full ROM due to changing the band resistance and leverage. It is only possible if we use bands for isometric holding. Self-resistance can create ~constant tension through the full ROM because we voluntary do that.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jul 20, 2019 16:59:56 GMT
I think I understand why I'm not communicating clearly. It depends on how the exercise is done, Bob50.
The ROM I'm talking about is not necessarily in the direction of toward/away-from the anchor point.(*)
The exercise I mention as an example, "one of those exercises is a face pull/snow angel/yielding isometric/combo kind of thing for back.", is under constant tension as soon as I move back to create the band tension before beginning. My hands are not moving toward the door anchor and then back, as in a row or curl, They are moving laterally (up and down) with the tension from pulling back at the start maintained. (*) Tension can also be increased or decreased during the exercise by moving toward or away from the anchor. Another way to maintain tension is to alternate squating/standing or turning away/toward the door anchor.
If you look at the pix of whiffet in the Sierra Exercise Equipment banner on this page, you'll see that, if he wants to, he can move in ways that will maintain constant tension. In the middle photo, he isn't limited to just pulling up and letting down. He could pull up, then move hands out in front and then to the back, all while maintaining constant tension (a movement that might be similar to moving your hands over the surface in waist deep water?). He might need to squat partially as his arms go forward and back to maintain more uniform tension, but the tension would be constant. In the pic on the right, he could move the extended "flag up" arm out to the side, to extend horizontally from his shoulder and the tension would be maintained throughout the arc with the same anchor point. In these examples, the tension is applied before the exercise begins and then is maintained constantly until the exercise is done.
It's not a matter of opinion. It's what I do. Many of my go-to exercises begin under tension, which is then maintained until the exercise is complete. The tools I use don't determine how I use them.
I hope this makes more sense now.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jul 24, 2019 2:46:59 GMT
jonrock, with that approach, an Olympic weightlifter becomes one with the bar. Those here using The Hook become one with The Hook which becomes the One. Tears. You've brought tears to my eyes.
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