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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 3, 2017 14:09:30 GMT
Iso-motion it is? Then I have a question & an answer for your world of physical culture ..... Q: What is iso-motion? A: Most everything You are adopting an umbrella heading that the majority of strength training will fall under for you. It won't matter much what you choose to do with weights, bands, etc, it will all be under the 'iso-motion' heading. In answer to your question, iso-motion means "isometrics with movement", if you want to classify the majority of strength training as "isometrics with movement" that's fine, but most people do not see it that way at all. I didn't classify it - you and Bruce and others have. I only acknowledged and brought attention to what you all have done. I keep writing, "Just do your exercise". I'm not inventing names to replace Exercise, Strength Training nor am I classifying anything. Maybe most people don't classify or see most strength training in that way, but that's what it is according to Bruce's, and others here, definition of "Iso-Motion" (or isometrics w/ movement or whatever). Do you classify and think of exercise like most people? They have been brainwashed by the fitness industry vomit so that they are easier to persuade to spend money. Strength Training now falls under Bruce's new heading of "Iso-Motion" (or Static-Dynamic Co-contraction or Moving Isometrics or whatever the chaotic psychobabble flavor of the month is since someone is constantly trying to come up w/ some new catch-phrase or acronym to spin it up). "Iso-Motion" has now been accepted by Bruce as the definition of Strength Training. "Exercise" or "Strength Training" was not good enough, apparently. Part of the body does an isometric while the rest of the body is in movement. Nothing new about it. It just used to be called "Deadlift" or "Bench Press" or "Overhead Press" or "Loaded Carry" or "Band Pulls", etc, under the heading and subheading of Exercise > Strength Training. The new heading, according to ya'll, is "Iso-Motion" (or your preferred flavor) for most exercises. |
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 3, 2017 14:17:30 GMT
This whole thing can be nit-picked to death. I don't care. For me, it is "Iso-motion" from now and forever more.
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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 3, 2017 14:23:58 GMT
Wait until you see what I invent to call my exercises, m8! No one except me will have a fucking clue what I'm doing. I do guarantee they will make no sense in English.  |
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Post by fatjake on Nov 3, 2017 15:30:11 GMT
In answer to your question, iso-motion means "isometrics with movement", if you want to classify the majority of strength training as "isometrics with movement" that's fine, but most people do not see it that way at all. The new heading, according to ya'll, is "Iso-Motion" (or your preferred flavor) for most exercises. no, thats all you, nobody else has said that or anything like it. "Iso-Motion" has now been accepted by Bruce as the definition of Strength Training. when did Bruce say that? again I don't think anyone has said that apart from you |
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Post by fatjake on Nov 3, 2017 15:38:33 GMT
most exercises do not make sense in English anyway, it's only that we are now used to the names and now know what those exercises actually are. Its really difficult to have a 2-word name for an exercise that makes perfect sense, that's why we need descriptions and diagrams and videos. I cant actually think of an exercise name that makes sense and everyone would know exactly how to perform it just by the name, I'm sure there must be one or two, but I can't think of any, most are nonsense. So the new names you invent will be in good company
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Post by Mr Average on Nov 3, 2017 17:02:33 GMT
This whole thing can be nit-picked to death. I don't care. For me, it is "Iso-motion" from now and forever more. Toilet humor, is this what it has come down too?  |
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Post by Bob50 on Nov 3, 2017 17:21:25 GMT
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Post by Mr Average on Nov 3, 2017 17:32:05 GMT
The problem is there are different descriptions, Oxford Dictionaries relating to or denoting muscular action in which tension is developed without contraction of the muscle. The free Dictionary Physiology Of or involving muscular contraction against resistance in which the length of the muscle remains the same. Merriam Webster of, relating to, involving, or being muscular contraction (as in isometrics) against resistance, without significant shortening of muscle fibers, and with marked increase in muscle tone Dictionary.com exercise or a program of exercises to strengthen specific muscles or shape the figure by pitting one muscle or part of the body against another or against an immovable object in a strong but motionless action, as by pressing the fist of one hand against the palm of the other or against a desk. None of them are contradictory. All of them agree that there is no movement. The Free Dictionary description (2nd one down) is probably the best. They get their information from a couple of medical dictionaries. Bruv have a word will you? www.imdb.com/title/tt0038733/mediaviewer/rm2930247168?ref_=tt_ov_i |
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 3, 2017 17:57:32 GMT
Are you trying to actually inject serious fitness information into this banal nit-picking fest?! |
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Post by Bob50 on Nov 3, 2017 19:05:56 GMT
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Post by hagerwf on Nov 3, 2017 19:42:05 GMT
Hey, maybe the quotation marks that Cedric uses make "Dynamic" OK in this context. Maybe this will finally end the argument. Quotation marks will bring peace to the Sierra exercise forum!!
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 3, 2017 20:16:28 GMT
Hey, maybe the quotation marks that Cedric uses make "Dynamic" OK in this context. Maybe this will finally end the argument. Quotation marks will bring peace to the Sierra exercise forum!! Oh, no. Those quotation marks will open up a whole new avenue of spirited discourse. |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Nov 4, 2017 19:28:24 GMT
None of them are contradictory. All of them agree that there is no movement. The Free Dictionary description (2nd one down) is probably the best. They get their information from a couple of medical dictionaries. only one of them even mentions movement, and its not the definition you think is best, stop making stuff up m8 "without contraction of the muscle." = Without movement. "the length of the muscle remains the same." = Without movement. "motionless action" = Without movement. |
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Nov 4, 2017 20:20:47 GMT
In other words they are very short range movements and not static (static = no movement).
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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 5, 2017 18:57:42 GMT
no, thats all you, nobody else has said that or anything like it. when did Bruce say that? again I don't think anyone has said that apart from youStart w/ the lead post and read on. |
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