TexasRanger
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 29, 2017 2:01:22 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 29, 2017 3:06:26 GMT
Gold's Gym, Venice, California. Wow! The Mecca!
25 years ago I coulda done those.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 29, 2017 3:39:55 GMT
Actually, I didn't mention this on the other thread relating my 3-point pullup try, but I also tried a full body pullup on my doorway chinning bar. I used the parallel handles, palms facing each other. I managed to hold myself up for 5 seconds and hurt my elbow. It's all right now, but it wouldn't be a good idea to continue. It's my hope that I'll eventually get to where I'll be able to do it.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 29, 2017 13:33:57 GMT
Gold's Gym, Venice, California. Wow! The Mecca! 25 years ago I coulda done those. I know Jabbers has been to Gold's...Bruce, have you ever visited? Years visited/trained includes 1982, 1983, 1993 and 2009 (have also visited Louise Simmon's in Columbus). The transition from 1982 to 2009 is wild...the Mentzers, Barbarian Brothers, Andreas Cahling, Viator in the 80s to people that were so big I don't know how they were even mobile in 2009. And the women--receding hairlines, big jaws...hard to tell from the men.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 29, 2017 17:23:38 GMT
Never been to Gold's Gym. The last time I was in a gym was in the mid 80's when my wife and I joined a raquet ball/nautilus club for a few months. Other than that I've always worked out at home. I have everything I need. If I think of something I could use, I make it. I have, on occasion, availed myself of hotel and cruise ship gyms.
BTW, in my mid to late 40's, I was doing 60 pushups and 16 wide grip chins. I would pull myself up to the back of my neck for one rep, and then lean way back and pull myself up to my chest for the next rep. Loved it! And then one day the pullups began hurting my elbows. Dammit! I once tried to see how many pushups I could do and did 75, the last few probably weren't valid pushups. I decided that 60 was a good number to keep them at, and so that's what I did.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 29, 2017 17:38:13 GMT
Can I ask: no issues with the isometric-style chins? Grunt and Bruv have mentioned issues...my problem's the right biceps that I tore doing palm-in close grip chins. Can't do those any longer and of course ceased all heavy pulldown work since I'm not a member of a gym. When I do my 1-arm rows, try to restrict any biceps involvement as well and keep the movement focused around the lat/back muscles as much as possible. Side note...no full ROM biceps work unless it is with small/light resistance. Saw an ortho for shoulder discomfort and he said it was the biceps tendon at the shoulder and to lay off all full ROM heavy biceps work (apparently a common recommendation he makes). Apparently an injury once only seen in older trainers from the wear & tear from heavy biceps work and in juicers (steroids apparently weaken connective tissue), the MD said they're seeing it with younger and younger trainees since kids are emulating what they're seeing on the web and using heavier weights in bad form and getting into products like creatine along with steroids. www.moveforwardpt.com/SymptomsConditionsDetail.aspx?cid=a97cf498-c31a-4f0d-b4c2-3f5bdbcebba2
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 29, 2017 18:47:35 GMT
No issues with the isometric pullups. That's because I'm pulling myself up from a seated position on the floor, legs spread out and going limp as I pull myself up. So I'm probably pulling up 50% of my body weight, or so.
I tried the 3-point pullups officially this morning. I think it makes more sense to start from the top and go downward. I held the top position for 60 seconds and the middle and bottom positions for 12 seconds each. I feel as though I could have held those longer, and next time I will.
Doing these long-duration isos, I have found that it doesn't take long to be able to hold them for longer and longer periods. Bruv said the same. I started off at 35 seconds, next week 45 seconds, and this past week, 60 seconds, where I will stay.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 29, 2017 19:12:37 GMT
1. I tried the 3-point pullups officially this morning. I think it makes more sense to start from the top and go downward. 2. I feel as though I could have held those longer, and next time I will. 3. Doing these long-duration isos, I have found that it doesn't take long to be able to hold them for longer and longer periods. 1. Me too, but since I'm hanging when I decide to do one, I pull up at a moderate speed and then lower as slowly as I can so that, when I reach full extension, I don't have enough left to go back up, so I just hang until .... 2. Feel is what I pay attention to, not time. (I know, this is a timed experiment, I know. It's just a comment, OK?) 3. Exactly.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 29, 2017 21:04:47 GMT
My primary .concern with the negatives is when they're used with weights added to your full body weight
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