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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 22:40:23 GMT
I'm not saying anyone is right nor am I saying anyone is wrong, but it's time to face facts which most of you already know and coming to realizations....
The truth is, I'm sick and tired of the false promises and stalling with LS. I have been for a long time and sometimes it just needs that push. We all know the inevitable and that John's courses have reached their peak and isn't going to change a damn thing about fitness.
The belt isn't coming out and seeing the light of day, not at this rate for the last few years. John has gotten himself into a black hole and has failed in making something happen. I'm not taking his word on this thing anymore and all I hear on that forum is the teacher from the peanuts cartoon, it's become too much of a stalling tactic and I'm letting the last remaining guys on there about it in individual PMs.
I've learned a lot what is useful for my goals and learned what not to do. Too many years and not a damn thing done. Unless there's a product page, which I believe won't happen, seeing is believing and taking on John's word has reached it's end. Not going to be obsessed over it and I'm def not going to be having an endless waste of time ridiculing and poking fun at him because that's not what I choose to do to somebody. His heart is in the right place in his mind but he's fallen and failed and he'll never admit it.
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Post by Michael on Feb 16, 2019 23:09:19 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2019 23:16:55 GMT
Steve sent me the link earlier today on messenger. Might have to check it out. I realize that and it's become too much for me to hold back on it. I have messaged at least 5-6 guys on that forum in a PM and I'm not expecting anything but I said what needed to be said.
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Post by Dave Reslo on Feb 17, 2019 3:24:32 GMT
I've got to say if I wanted something like the seatbelt I would just buy Shen's suspension trainer. That's not because I'm a moron who doesn't know what a cargo belt is, but because quickly changing between consistently measured distances is obviously better.
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Post by Alan OldStudent on Feb 17, 2019 8:00:59 GMT
I'm not saying anyone is right nor am I saying anyone is wrong, but it's time to face facts which most of you already know and coming to realizations.... The truth is, I'm sick and tired of the false promises and stalling with LS. I have been for a long time and sometimes it just needs that push. We all know the inevitable and that John's courses have reached their peak and isn't going to change a damn thing about fitness. The belt isn't coming out and seeing the light of day, not at this rate for the last few years. John has gotten himself into a black hole and has failed in making something happen. I'm not taking his word on this thing anymore and all I hear on that forum is the teacher from the peanuts cartoon, it's become too much of a stalling tactic and I'm letting the last remaining guys on there about it in individual PMs. I've learned a lot what is useful for my goals and learned what not to do. Too many years and not a damn thing done. Unless there's a product page, which I believe won't happen, seeing is believing and taking on John's word has reached it's end. Not going to be obsessed over it and I'm def not going to be having an endless waste of time ridiculing and poking fun at him because that's not what I choose to do to somebody. His heart is in the right place in his mind but he's fallen and failed and he'll never admit it. ( Mounting my soapbox) BB, this has been a difficult thing for you to write, and my hat's off to you.
To the others on this forum, now is not the time to attack BB's dignity. He's clearly doing a lot of reexamining of lots of things he's believed for years. We need to be kind and supportive of him. Bruce has treated BB with respect, and I hope the rest of us realize that he needs our support right now, not our spitballs. (Dismounting my soapbox)
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Post by fastfor40 on Feb 17, 2019 12:14:58 GMT
I was a member of that forum for two or three years, and had several calls and emails with the man. I devoted myself to his training methods for quite a few months - training which consisted primarily of tension exercises, and the pushups, situps and pullups I'd been doing for years. No weight training, however; none. I wanted to give it an honest go, and I've posted my disappointment with the results.
But, members with far more training experience and knowledge - good guys in every sense of the word - were getting banned from his forum with great regularity. It was his forum and he could do what he wanted, I guess, but he wasn't satisfied with just getting rid of them; he posted insults in an effort to humiliate them, knowing full well they would be unable to respond. Gordon Anderson - who was considered a fool by most of the members - threw his two-cents in, as did Greg. When Pierini and Bruce were banned, I left.
A good friend was a member there far longer than me, and his departure came after GN emailed him about certain posts and basically told him to straighten up, or else. My friend was an accomplished runner, and a pretty darned good athlete by any measure, not to mention he could easily bury GN in any type workout. My friend left.
I got an email from the man a few years ago asking me to come back with a clean slate - I wasn't aware I'd had any blemishes - and that he had exciting projects in the works that would usher in a new era of physical training. I didn't respond, and nothing came of the "exciting projects."
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Post by jrmeatplow on Feb 17, 2019 13:50:08 GMT
sort of out of the loop on these things but did a little investigating. Didn't the Peterson guy promise some kind of isometric device years and years ago and a book? Why would anyone wait in agony for a cargo strap? buy Bruce's system and get to training.
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Post by Michael on Feb 17, 2019 13:52:57 GMT
I've got to say if I wanted something like the seatbelt I would just buy Shen's suspension trainer. That's not because I'm a moron who doesn't know what a cargo belt is, but because quickly changing between consistently measured distances is obviously better. That's one of the reasons I like Bruce's suspension/isometric trainer.
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Post by billfish on Feb 17, 2019 14:32:47 GMT
sort of out of the loop on these things but did a little investigating. Didn't the Peterson guy promise some kind of isometric device years and years ago and a book? Why would anyone wait in agony for a cargo strap? buy Bruce's system and get to training. Yes, that's him.......promises, promises
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 14:53:14 GMT
I'm not saying anyone is right nor am I saying anyone is wrong, but it's time to face facts which most of you already know and coming to realizations.... The truth is, I'm sick and tired of the false promises and stalling with LS. I have been for a long time and sometimes it just needs that push. We all know the inevitable and that John's courses have reached their peak and isn't going to change a damn thing about fitness. The belt isn't coming out and seeing the light of day, not at this rate for the last few years. John has gotten himself into a black hole and has failed in making something happen. I'm not taking his word on this thing anymore and all I hear on that forum is the teacher from the peanuts cartoon, it's become too much of a stalling tactic and I'm letting the last remaining guys on there about it in individual PMs. I've learned a lot what is useful for my goals and learned what not to do. Too many years and not a damn thing done. Unless there's a product page, which I believe won't happen, seeing is believing and taking on John's word has reached it's end. Not going to be obsessed over it and I'm def not going to be having an endless waste of time ridiculing and poking fun at him because that's not what I choose to do to somebody. His heart is in the right place in his mind but he's fallen and failed and he'll never admit it. ( Mounting my soapbox) BB, this has been a difficult thing for you to write, and my hat's off to you.
To the others on this forum, now is not the time to attack BB's dignity. He's clearly doing a lot of reexamining of lots of things he's believed for years. We need to be kind and supportive of him. Bruce has treated BB with respect, and I hope the rest of us realize that he needs our support right now, not our spitballs. (Dismounting my soapbox)
Thanks Alan, I really appreciate that.... At this point. I don't care if I get banned or not, it's not going to change anything and I'm not going to cry about it. John was always nice to me in our conversations and I'll always be grateful for what he has done for me. It's just time. Got a lot of things going on in my life that need my priority and this with John isn't one of them.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Feb 17, 2019 15:17:05 GMT
Keep the Faith, Benny! It is coming! And it will be heralded by a host of angels! Lo, it is coming! And it will be beautiful!
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Post by billfish on Feb 17, 2019 16:10:45 GMT
Keep the Faith, Benny! It is coming! And it will be heralded by a host of angels! Lo, it is coming! And it will be beautiful! Hallelujah....hallelujah ! The belt is being tested by The Man as we speak !
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Post by billfish on Feb 17, 2019 17:11:35 GMT
Benny Keep alert.....the word may have gone out to have you whacked by The Secret Agent in Portland
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2019 17:33:00 GMT
Benny Keep alert.....the word may have gone out to have you whacked by The Secret Agent in Portland You never know, the irony is that Gordon responded to me and actually in a small way, agreed with me.
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Post by mr potatohead on Feb 17, 2019 17:39:18 GMT
I think Gord knows what's up in regard to the TFM forum, but it's a safe place for him to blow out some BS and JeP not only lets it go - he even endorses it.
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