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Post by DDH on Oct 25, 2017 2:48:21 GMT
I was working out at the gym I go to the other day,and one of the trainers who was training a client, was talking to him about that sprinting is the best for burning fat,because of the after burn,his client mentioned to him what about jogging and walking,but the trainer said don't waste your time with those 2 exercises sprinting is the way to go he said, the great debate continues on which is the best way to burn fat, it all starts with diet,but still to this day walking still gets a bad rap,Some people can't do sprints because of knee or hip problems,I know some people have had good results doing sprints, but for some ,it's not for everybody.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 25, 2017 2:58:57 GMT
Muscle burns calories. Build muscle. Avoid injury and anything that damages joints. Sprinting on a regular basis would likely make my knees/hips hurt, but I don't enjoy that shit enough to do a trial. Heh, heh. Protein requires more calories to process. Trade gross protein calories for gross carb &/or gross fat calories to lower net calories. Eat the same total number of calories, burn more of them.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 25, 2017 3:38:58 GMT
Well, friends and neighbors, I believe I can speak intelligently, and, I believe, somewhat authoritatively on this, because, the summer before last, I lost at least 25 lbs. from walking (and watching what I ate) for a mile and a half every morning. I made it a mile and a half because that's how far I could walk in 30 minutes, which is what my doctor advised me to do. Good, brisk walking! Nice long strides, head back, looking around, shoulders back, taking in deep breaths, eh, w'at? ! It's wonderful exercise for your legs, it doesn't hurt your knees, it frees up and loosens up your hips. There is no jarring. All indications of potential diabetes vanished and my heart rate dropped. So, what did I do after that? I didn't walk all the last winter because I didn't want to walk in the cold. I hardly walked this last summer because I got used to not walking in the winter. I paid for it on our last vacation a few weeks ago. There was so much walking involved and my hips were killing me. On the last day of walking, my hips finally loosened up. What's more, I'm ashamed to admit, I gradually put that 25 lbs. back on. Well, I'm never going to let this happen again. It'll be getting too cold again to get out and walk, so I've resurrected our Gazelle Glider and our Stepper, and I have been using one or the other every morning for two and a half weeks now, and I will continue to use them all winter long, and then next spring I will get out there and walk. And then when it gets too hot and humid to get out there and walk, I'll get back on the glider and stepper. I might walk some days and then glide or step others. One way or another i will do one or the other every morning from now on. I'll get back down to that 198 lbs., and maybe even less. I swear it! There's no need for sprinting or jogging. Walking is best and it is enjoyable.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 25, 2017 3:58:32 GMT
Er ..... yeah .... I vote for walking too.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 25, 2017 4:09:16 GMT
I SWEAR IT!!
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Post by DDH on Oct 25, 2017 4:45:52 GMT
I myself vote for brisk walking too,in the past some yrs.ago whenever I would do sprints,I would always pull a hamstring and would feel wiped out after the next day,I have a friend who pulled his achilles tendon sprinting once,even after he did a good warm up,and he said screw it never again will I do sprints.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 25, 2017 4:57:11 GMT
Injuries aside. I believe that walking - I know that walking - will burn off calories, and it is just plain healthy and enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 10:49:58 GMT
I've never sprinted. But what I can say is when I had a summer doing lots of daily walking I found it so easy to get lean and stay lean. So walking gets a big thumbs up. I was also able to enjoy meals out and alcohol too.
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Post by Mr Average on Oct 25, 2017 10:59:14 GMT
Walking so long as you do not have injuries, I met a woman while out walking a couple of years ago in her late 70s. She was walking her 2 dogs, we had a chat and she told me that sometime ago her doctor told her she had arthritis and said she needed to go walking to help with her pain. So she got 2 dogs, because then she would have no excuse not to go walking, she did say that it kept her arthritis pains at bay.
To me cardio is cardio and walking is kinda to the joints.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 25, 2017 12:17:35 GMT
I've never sprinted. But what I can say is when I had a summer doing lots of daily walking I found it so easy to get lean and stay lean. So walking gets a big thumbs up. I was also able to enjoy meals out and alcohol too. A long time ago, when I did a lot of running (more like jogging @ my pace), I would sometimes add in a sprint or two, usually when I knew I was nearly done. I also would increase speed toward the end of a race so that by the finish line, my legs were furiously pumping their stiff green gallop - not that I was fast enough to consider myself a competitor - I just did it for the fun & to hang w/ other runners. I would not go back to the joint pounding, tendon snapping, all out sprints again. Briefly increasing speed to a brisk jog occasionally seems like it would be OK, depending on the surface. If I had a dry sandy area available, I'd use that, as long as no sticks, nails or broken glass. Anyway, walking is king as has been pointed out.
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Post by MachineHead on Oct 25, 2017 12:32:23 GMT
www.urbanranger.com/"Exertion vs. Exercise It's idiotic. We've invented one class of machine to spare us physical exertion, and another class of machine to inflict it back on us again, but in an infinitely more boring, painful, and useless manner. We view it as the triumph of our age that work no longer means labor, that we can burn fossil fuel instead of living muscle. And yet we berate ourselves that we do not labor in our leisure time, that we do not spend our freed hours in the gym, that torture chamber that is only possible because the automobile and the escalator have saved us so much labor that the surfeit is killing us. It's offensive. Work, dammit, and you won't have to play work later. No, you probably can't kill a caribou for dinner, or plow a field, or do most of the useful work that your ancestors did for thousands of generations. But you can still walk. And believe it or not, walking is enough (more on that below). Let me guess: you don't go to the gym, or strap yourself to the bike machine, or grind the cartilage off your joints jogging around the track, as often as you think you should, if at all. Maybe you go for six months, plateau, get bored, quit for a year, get disgusted, and start up again. Maybe you haven't exercised in ages. You suspect that your problem is a deficiency of willpower. Well, you're off. Your problem is you are squandering willpower on a hopeless task: exercise divorced from purpose. The solution: purposeful exertion; in particular, walking. Walking is still useful. It is interesting and pleasant. You can think and observe while you walk. You get somewhere. You don't need any special equipment or outfits. It provides great health returns on very little investment, without the risk associated with high impact activities. And you can do it for the rest of your life."
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 25, 2017 12:42:52 GMT
IMHO, walking, based on what I've seen wins hands down:
1. When you walk, your energy comes primarily from fat. The percentages vary based on what you read, but, they range from 75 - 85% based on conditioning and pace. A well conditioned person will have far more fat burning enzymes vs. someone just starting out. 2. Sprinting utilizes zero fat for energy...you're using glycogen since it is an anaerobic activity. The "after burn" uses a small amount of fat, but, the biggest benefit is the boost to your body's release of growth hormone. Which is great, but, other activities -- especially strength training -- will do the same thing. 3. The risk: reward for walking vs. sprints? Everyone else has stated the facts already.
I wish I'd saved the URLs for the sites where there were some researchers who looked into the claims regarding sprinting and fat burning and came to the conclusion the results were overstated, or, could not be replicated.
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Post by Mr Average on Oct 25, 2017 13:26:08 GMT
www.urbanranger.com/"Exertion vs. Exercise It's idiotic. We've invented one class of machine to spare us physical exertion, and another class of machine to inflict it back on us again, but in an infinitely more boring, painful, and useless manner. We view it as the triumph of our age that work no longer means labor, that we can burn fossil fuel instead of living muscle. And yet we berate ourselves that we do not labor in our leisure time, that we do not spend our freed hours in the gym, that torture chamber that is only possible because the automobile and the escalator have saved us so much labor that the surfeit is killing us. It's offensive. Work, dammit, and you won't have to play work later. No, you probably can't kill a caribou for dinner, or plow a field, or do most of the useful work that your ancestors did for thousands of generations. But you can still walk. And believe it or not, walking is enough (more on that below). Let me guess: you don't go to the gym, or strap yourself to the bike machine, or grind the cartilage off your joints jogging around the track, as often as you think you should, if at all. Maybe you go for six months, plateau, get bored, quit for a year, get disgusted, and start up again. Maybe you haven't exercised in ages. You suspect that your problem is a deficiency of willpower. Well, you're off. Your problem is you are squandering willpower on a hopeless task: exercise divorced from purpose. The solution: purposeful exertion; in particular, walking. Walking is still useful. It is interesting and pleasant. You can think and observe while you walk. You get somewhere. You don't need any special equipment or outfits. It provides great health returns on very little investment, without the risk associated with high impact activities. And you can do it for the rest of your life." Is this for real, who wrote this tripe, I guess the author has never done a physical job in their life. Yes physical jobs do exist even in 2017.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 25, 2017 15:44:27 GMT
The author of that piece also hosts the No S Diet website (and wrote the book): www.nosdiet.com/He also has the ShovelGlove website: www.shovelglove.com/Don't recall his whole background, but, he lives in a big city here in the US and is an apartment dweller and I believe he's a techno-geek involved in the software industry (may be 100% wrong on this one). The No S Diet is actually a pretty good little idea if you haven't seen it...has been around since the early 2000s, if I recall, and its based on the stuff grandma or mom used to enforce with many of us growing up: 1. No snacks. 2. No second helpings. 3. No sweets (except on special days). Lots of validation from the world of science to back this up. And apparently the combined diet + workout has worked well for some people ( "It’s amazing what a little effort & determination can do. Today I’m officially 20kgs less than my highest weight, I don’t think I’ve been this tiny since I was about 15, and I’ve sure as hell never had abs like this!! ") : 4.bp.blogspot.com/-NObxfUIcWTs/VQlXASh3RmI/AAAAAAACq0I/SwW6cXfHQoc/s1600/Screenshot%2Bfrom%2B2015-03-18%2B17%3A43%3A30.png
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Post by DDH on Oct 25, 2017 16:19:17 GMT
Some really good posts here,I had a colonoscoopy yesterday, and when the nurse took my vital signs,he was really impressed BP,112/ 75,heart rate 51,he said that's great for someone 59,he asked me if I do cardio,I said yes I do brisk walking he said good choice of exercise.
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