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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 19, 2017 8:52:55 GMT
Then one of my shoulder injuries brought a mention by Bruv of how hangs helped him or his wife or somebody It wasn't me that said it. I don't like hangs. Neither me or my wife have used hangs for a shoulder injury. One of the reasons I gave up chinning as a regular part of my routine was because full range chins aggravate the shoulder injury I got about 20 years ago doing pushups, m8
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 19, 2017 13:24:29 GMT
Then one of my shoulder injuries brought a mention by Bruv of how hangs helped him or his wife or somebody It wasn't me that said it. I don't like hangs. Neither me or my wife have used hangs for a shoulder injury. One of the reasons I gave up chinning as a regular part of my routine was because full range chins aggravate the shoulder injury I got about 20 years ago doing pushups, m8 Oh, OK, I guess it was someone else who looked like you then. I don't do chins anymore either due to the golfer's elbow I developed. I think a rotating grip might help to avoid the straight bar restriction, but I moved on to doing a pull up, typically during a hang. BTW, I wasn't referring to chins - or pull ups for that matter - I was talking about hangs. I thought I remembered you saying you had a previous girlfriend who could not do 1 chin/pull up until she had hung for a period? That would be help ....... sort of, but not for the purpose of repairing a shoulder injury, I understand. Anyway, someone mentioned hangs help to speed recovery of shoulder issues and mentioned the book by a Dr Kirsch (I think that's his name) who stopped doing shoulder surgeries and, instead, recommended hangs to his patients to fix their shoulders. I tried it and, along w/ (especially) the isometric doorway OHP, my shoulders recovered quickly from issues that I had been nursing along and working around for several months. I noticed the improvement within a week. EDIT: Yeah, here he is:
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 19, 2017 13:40:50 GMT
Robert Martin, the inventor of Gravity Boots, claimed that high bar hangs using his hands increased his height . That hype aside, my subjective belief is that they're beneficial . Like Pete, I move around while hanging for more perceived benefits
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 19, 2017 13:47:23 GMT
I "finished" reading Pete's book - not really finished since I will refer back to it, and may read it through end to end, multiple times. There was one place where he used a word like "aside"(?) instead of "subside"(? not sure where it was and can't find it right now to confirm), but other than a number of small typos, missing conjunctions and such, which are easy to read around without losing the meaning of the text, I think it's one of the best books I've ever read on exercise. Lots to ponder in it.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 20, 2017 6:13:13 GMT
It wasn't me that said it. I don't like hangs. Neither me or my wife have used hangs for a shoulder injury. One of the reasons I gave up chinning as a regular part of my routine was because full range chins aggravate the shoulder injury I got about 20 years ago doing pushups, m8 BTW, I wasn't referring to chins - or pull ups for that matter - I was talking about hangs. I thought I remembered you saying you had a previous girlfriend who could not do 1 chin/pull up until she had hung for a period? I know you were not referring to chins. I just mentioned full range chins because... Oh forget it. The ex-girlfriend did not do hangs. She did isometric pullups.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 12:00:12 GMT
BTW, I wasn't referring to chins - or pull ups for that matter - I was talking about hangs. I thought I remembered you saying you had a previous girlfriend who could not do 1 chin/pull up until she had hung for a period? I know you were not referring to chins. I just mentioned full range chins because... Oh forget it. The ex-girlfriend did not do hangs. She did isometric pullups. Hmm. Should this be added to the "moving isometrics" list? Isometric and pullup? Are you doing a pullup or isometric?
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 12:26:03 GMT
but let's be honest, most people - apart perhaps from old farts like us - train for big guns and to look good, they don't give a fuck about being able to hunt like bushmen and they don't care if our ancestors never did repetitive exercises. They certainly dont train to look like bushmen, you can get that look easily enough by not eating very much There's a variety of reasons to train...big arms is probably a small % of the population that works out as a whole. The bodybuilding community, of course, lives for big arms and there are those lunkheads that equate big arms with something of value. The problem is, the paradigm many of us grew up with was the bodybuilding bullshit and the media racks are filled with magazines touting bodybuilding with fitness, etc. Looking good, certainly, is a big reason most get into working out and of course health reasons. But big arms? Just go to California-- home of bodybuilding -- even "muscle beach" is anything but. Sure, Gold's is nearby. You have the Muscle Beach weight lifting area -- which was a dump, btw, last time I saw it -- with a handful of people. There are also the rings and dip/chinning bars closer to the Pacific which had as many people training there as the weight area. The vast mass of people? Not sporting big arms but quite a few fit people running, cycling, etc., on the path near the beach. An example of a small % of the population into the big arms stuff. But yes, there are groups that want to be able to acheive real fitness vs. the sedentary stuff so prevelent in the US and Europe. (And I'm guilty of the latter.) I've mentioned the Movnat group...there are other examples including the Spartan fitness competitors. The sedentary stuff goes out the window with those folks and their training is crazy.
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 20, 2017 14:27:53 GMT
BTW, I wasn't referring to chins - or pull ups for that matter - I was talking about hangs. I thought I remembered you saying you had a previous girlfriend who could not do 1 chin/pull up until she had hung for a period? I know you were not referring to chins. I just mentioned full range chins because... Oh forget it. The ex-girlfriend did not do hangs. She did isometric pullups. "Isometric pullups" - that's a joke ....? I'm feeling very confused now, m8.
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 14:56:34 GMT
Isometric pullups = Dr Crunch's protocol ( me thinks)
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 20, 2017 15:01:38 GMT
Isometric pullups = Dr Crunch's protocol ( me thinks) Thinking the same thing, but, always heard them as iso-holds if memory serves well. Maybe iso-hangs?
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 20, 2017 17:33:21 GMT
What??! Reallly?! Where?! Where?! Where is it mentioned??!! p. 34?? p.45??
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 20, 2017 17:48:44 GMT
I didn't post that, m8, but, anyway, here's the quote from the book (which, I assume you haven't read?):
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Oct 20, 2017 17:54:27 GMT
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Post by gruntbrain on Oct 20, 2017 17:59:07 GMT
Addition to the old slogan "if it feels good then do it" : if it's enjoyable then do it .
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Oct 20, 2017 18:09:31 GMT
I didn't post that, m8, but, anyway, here's the quote from the book (which, I assume you haven't read?): Oh. I stand corrected. It was deucietoes, God bless his little pea-pickin' heart. I have been validated. I can die happy now.
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