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Post by countryboy on Sept 27, 2018 15:38:13 GMT
Sorry - missed this. (1) I didn't see anyone push back on Vince when I was there, but, Vince did verbally chastize one or two people when I was there to include saying they could have their money back and leave. (2) When I went to Vince's, I paid for my work out ($10 or $15?) and it really was a throw back gym. Older equipment was the first thing you noticed. No music. Don't remember anyone screaming or grunting, etc., like the typical gym. Vince was behind the desk but someone else checked me in. I was probably a set or two into some dips when Vince walked over and asked me what I was doing. He told me my form was wrong, didn't understand his method, etc. After changing to his dipping method, it was a LOT harder and my rep count dropped as a result -- sore as heck the next day. Back? Again, form was wrong and he wouldn't let me chin because I couldn't pull myself -- according to Vince -- to the point the bar was around 2 - 3" below the bottom of my neck. So, switched to pulldowns. The biggest area of change was shoulders and arms, which I've shared. He wasn't rude with me, but, he wasn't overly friendly. I think there were one or two (?) exercises where he explained the rationale of why he advised doing things a certain way. Thank you TR....Reading about this stuff in the muscle mags back in the 60's was fascinating for me. It seemed that everyone was having a wonderful time working with and under the great trainers of champions, and there I was , stuck in small town Saskatchewan wondering how long it would take to look like those guys.
Now, a lot older and much wiser, I look back and realize there is much more to life than Muscle Beach and tri-bombing my pecs next to Larry Scott, but still, I like to read first hand accounts about those times from people who were actually there.
I would like to see more first hand accounts from that era, especially about people like Marvin Eder or Chuck Sipes...the really strong bodybuilders.
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Post by TexasRanger on Sept 27, 2018 18:09:31 GMT
With my constant moves as a kid and moving every couple of years while in the military and travels due to work, I've been able to train at a lot of places around the country -- Vince's, Gold's in Venice, a fabulous gym in Colorado Springs (don't know if it still open), a tiny SuperSlow studio in Austin (where I had one of the toughest workouts, ever, in less than 12 - 15 min), base gyms (Fast and I related stories about them), two of George Turner's in St. Louis, gyms in Cleveland, New Jersey, Florida, etc. And IMHO? The smaller, locally owned facilities were always the best...more personal, friendlier attitudes and none of the amped up personalities in California, for example. There may have been more camaraderie in the old days? Didn't sound like that was always the case in one of Dave Draper's books, but, possibly moreso than now. Around seven or eight years ago, I quit trying to find a local gym and would use whatever the hotel happened to have and/or just stuck with pushups, the Iso-Bow...whatever I can stick in my suitcase for travel. Trying to find a local gym was getting a bit difficult and the bigger fitness centers -- while well equipped, clean, etc. -- were members only or quite expensive for a one day pass. Saskatchewan? Been to Regina (road trip while living in North Dakota, biz w/ Saskatel...). I know these guys are from Winnipeg*, but, a classic tune... (*I was asked at a bar in Winnipeg, "Do you play for the Bombers? One of them big Texas boys on the team, eh?" Answer was no, but, my accent and Ropers earned a Labatt's or two... )
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Sept 28, 2018 1:56:03 GMT
I would like to see more first hand accounts from that era, especially about people like Marvin Eder or Chuck Sipes...the really strong bodybuilders. Chuck Sipes! I remember him! Famous for the tattoos. That's a name I haven't heard in a long time. He was most assuredly a beast!
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Post by dynoman on Sept 28, 2018 3:30:59 GMT
I read something not to long ago, that Marvin Eder is still working out,of course not like he did yrs. ago,I would be curious to see what is workout consists of today, that guy was strong!
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Post by Deuce Gunner on Sept 28, 2018 9:02:42 GMT
Here's an interview with Marvin Eder from 2016 where they talk about what he did and interview him about what he currently does as well as some other things. www.bodybuilding.com/fun/drobson304.htm
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Post by countryboy on Sept 28, 2018 14:59:37 GMT
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Post by MBS on Sept 29, 2018 23:06:05 GMT
This thread inspired me to break out the 50 weighted vest and bang out some ATG body weight squats. Had forgotten what a good workout that can be.
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Post by stormshadow on Sept 30, 2018 20:58:05 GMT
Training routines of Sipes rippeder.com/content/chuck-sipes-workout-routinesI don't have first hand knowledge like TR. Great experience to meet and train at Vince. I did train at original Gold's gym and met Joe Gold for one workout. He let me do it for free since I was military. He was really friendly guy and had been merchant marine. He built the equipment and it was great and smooth
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Sept 30, 2018 21:48:09 GMT
Training routines of Sipes rippeder.com/content/chuck-sipes-workout-routinesI don't have first hand knowledge like TR. Great experience to meet and train at Vince. I did train at original Gold's gym and met Joe Gold for one workout. He let me do it for free since I was military. He was really friendly guy and had been merchant marine. He built the equipment and it was great and smooth His equipment was great and smooth??!
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Post by gruntbrain on Sept 30, 2018 22:33:52 GMT
If Joe Gold were alive what would be think about the Gold's Gym equipment ( made in China) sold at Wal-Mart?
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Post by stormshadow on Oct 1, 2018 23:11:30 GMT
Training routines of Sipes rippeder.com/content/chuck-sipes-workout-routinesI don't have first hand knowledge like TR. Great experience to meet and train at Vince. I did train at original Gold's gym and met Joe Gold for one workout. He let me do it for free since I was military. He was really friendly guy and had been merchant marine. He built the equipment and it was great and smooth His equipment was great and smooth??! Great because the angles and geometries felt right. Smooth because movement not jerky. Dumbbell handles thicker in middle and thinner closer to plates. Leg extension the best I ever used since. The part that you put your feet under moved up and down as you moved through the exercise
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Post by mr potatohead on Oct 2, 2018 0:13:46 GMT
....... His equipment was great and smooth??! That's what she said, yes.
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Post by TexasRanger on Oct 2, 2018 2:41:33 GMT
Training routines of Sipes rippeder.com/content/chuck-sipes-workout-routinesI don't have first hand knowledge like TR. Great experience to meet and train at Vince. I did train at original Gold's gym and met Joe Gold for one workout. He let me do it for free since I was military. He was really friendly guy and had been merchant marine. He built the equipment and it was great and smooth Wow oh wow! The original Gold's with the railroad pictures (?) all over the walls...that blows away my visits to Vince's. I went to Gold's on Hampton -- after Joe had sold the biz and then started World not too far down the street -- which is where I met Mentzer, saw some of the other starts of the 80s, 90s. But again, not "THE" Gold's. Went back again five or six years ago, but, I'd stopped keeping up with bb'ing so no clue who was even in there and as my wife pointed out you couldn't tell many of the women from the men.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Dec 17, 2021 20:54:01 GMT
Hey, OB, do you have a habit of making up shit like this when you're bored? Nice that you can keep yourself entertained. This reminds of the BS of adding one or two pushups every day for a month to whatever your current max is. Yeah, right. Let's see someone do that. My experience shows that adding one pushup everyday isn't BS. I used to do push ups every morning and adding one more. I started with 20 on the first day and when I got to 80, I stopped because it was taking too long. I doubt that I could do 80 now - not with good form anyway. Was 20 the maximum you could when you started this routine, Trog m8?
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Dec 17, 2021 21:20:23 GMT
Hey m8s, recently I've been looking at a few early 20th century physical culture courses online. I noticed that squats on the toes, either freehand or with dumbbells were often recommended. I also found some Youtube videos saying the same. A guy in a video even said that squatting down on the toes was a perfectly natural position. It seemed to make sense as people often do this to perform various tasks so I decided to try them out again as I had only used them very briefly many years ago. I really liked the way the exercise gives the calf muscles a good workout at the same time as the quads. The problem is though I started to noticed some irritation in my knees when I had to push a large wheelbarrow half full of mortar up a slope that would not normally be a problem for me. I decided it was time to ditch that exercise. So, inspired by Mr Mikey PotatoHeadOfUSA I have taken up freehand squatting all the way down into a primitive or so called "Asian squat". I'm not doing any of the weight shifting from side to side stuff though. Just up and down fairly slowly.
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