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Post by billfish on Nov 15, 2019 22:39:21 GMT
How effective bodyweight exercise can be.....when I got my rings it changed my whole outlook on exercise I made major gains in strength and size at 55 years old after getting into full bodyweight routines without any special diet, no creatine etc and lots of beer Never could get into weights, not knocking them, just love bodyweight and have experimented over the years and have really had fun with it
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Post by gruntbrain on Nov 15, 2019 22:55:48 GMT
Too bad I didn't use suspension training along with weight training
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Post by Michael on Nov 15, 2019 23:59:47 GMT
I would not have done long-distance running, and stuck to the shorter runs and sprint workouts. LD was a bad, bad choice, as I've come to realize. Why was long-distance running a bad choice for You? Curious because I prefer shorter runs and sprint workouts sometimes. Did it affect You health wise, joint wise, or some other way besides physique?
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Post by Michael on Nov 16, 2019 0:31:02 GMT
I understand the diet thing, definitely think it's important for health and for the way You look. If You don't want to be fat it is important. Not saying anyone here said this but I heard people put a percentage on diet which I personally think is rubbish and not possible. To be healthy, feel good and not fat it's a combination of exercise, diet, and lifestyle. You can have the best diet in the world but if Your stress levels are high there's no way You get the same results. This is just my opinion, whether right or wrong to some.
From my personal experience, I found that I have looked different without changing diet and just doing a different type of exercise. "If only I'd known then what I know now", I would not have done so much bench pressing and weight exercises to build up my chest. Not saying that my chest is anything special but this is where diet alone does not help. If I do conditioning workouts or the typical KB guru workouts with no chest work my chest looks different. I've been at a low weight a couple of times doing different types of exercise so I know for myself. My avatar is when I used a combination of Whiffet and Bruce's ideas in my workouts. I was 165lbs. Honestly, what Bruce said about pushups and pullups, I agree. I can see what Billfish is saying about the full-body workouts and rings. Just try doing pushups on rings. I prefer full-body workouts or an upper/lower body split no matter what type of training I do.
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Post by macky on Nov 16, 2019 9:26:23 GMT
There's lots I wish I had done instead of what I did.
But what I got out of it was an all-round experience of several different methods of exercise, especially weights, the mistakes with which I could warn others against, for the good of the protocol and trying to help others, and some gains which were solid evidence of whatever I was training at the time.
I had a damn good time, and there were things I look back on that in today's light were mistakes, but at that time were exactly what I wanted to do. Good job !
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Post by Dave Reslo on Nov 18, 2019 1:21:16 GMT
I fucked a lot of my joints doing one thing or another too much or rigidly adhering to a form that didn't suit me very early on. I suppose really the biggest lesson a beginner should learn is distinguishing joint pain from muscle pain. Everything else I've learnt has really been more of a fun sort of self-discovery, I can't be alone here in enjoying the process at least as much as the results.
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Post by Michael on Nov 18, 2019 1:43:39 GMT
Never thought of it that way Macky and Dave, good points.
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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 18, 2019 14:23:19 GMT
..... a fun sort of self-discovery, I can't be alone here in enjoying the process at least as much as the results.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 18, 2019 15:23:16 GMT
I fucked a lot of my joints doing one thing or another too much or rigidly adhering to a form that didn't suit me very early on. I suppose really the biggest lesson a beginner should learn is distinguishing joint pain from muscle pain. Everything else I've learnt has really been more of a fun sort of self-discovery, I can't be alone here in enjoying the process at least as much as the results. Oh, right. I messed my shoulders up from doing heavy behind-the-neck presses. Wish I'd known that that is one exercise that should never be done.
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Post by bob44 on Nov 18, 2019 16:01:20 GMT
I don’t think I would have changed much in the way I train or workout. I did go through periods of all or nothing thinking where I skipped too many workouts because of not enough time to do a full workout. What I wish is I could tell my younger self to avoid the times I got injured. One winter day 3 different cars got stuck by my house in snow drifts and I screwed up my SI joint pushing them out. It has been a problem for over 30 years.
I am still waiting for my older self to come back and tell me to quit eating so much junk. Overall I have a good diet, but then I always have to add the extra junk food from the mindless snacking.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 18, 2019 16:37:29 GMT
I am still waiting for my older self to come back and tell me to quit eating so much junk. Overall I have a good diet, but then I always have to add the extra junk food from the mindless snacking. A good ol' Kit-Kat now and then isn't going to hurt anyone.
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Post by billfish on Nov 18, 2019 17:05:16 GMT
Common sense and listening to your body is something we can all use.....being able to do numerous pushups, burpees, pullups, dips, KB swings etc is all well and good. But ....for what ? Especially when you get older....beating yourself up with silly PRs and unrealistic tests is a sure way to get injured and to hasten joint and other problems You may never have to do a pushup, burpee or pullup to save your life in an emergency, but if you need to and one doesn't do it, being able to do 10 or more isn't going to do it either. Everything in moderation.....because no matter how fit you are, as you age, recovery time increases and pushing to the limit is asking for trouble We all want to enjoy our older years and nothing takes away the enjoyment like pain.....I was very fortunate when I was younger not to suffer any lasting injuries from some of the things I did but still have some lingering tendinitis in my rt bicep that flares up now and again. I pushed past it when I was a little younger and if I had been smart and listened to my body, I would not have a problem with it now Exercise should be fun, not a competition or torture Train smart today to enjoy training tomorrow.....exercise to live, don't live to exercise
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Post by gruntbrain on Nov 18, 2019 21:23:31 GMT
A geezer gotta know his limits . I avoid athletic type exercises but I include heavy partial lifts to establish PRs .
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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 20, 2019 5:11:48 GMT
"PRs"?
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Post by bob44 on Nov 20, 2019 14:20:53 GMT
PR - personal record
The older I get the shorter the time frame I use for my PRs. I am going to set a new PR for today!
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