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Post by stormshadow on Nov 10, 2017 16:10:29 GMT
After he sold Nautilus industries to Bowflex for $25 Million dollars. This is from 1996 post sale. You don't see this quote that often for commercial reasons. But I think it is right on the money.
"Apart from a rather limited number of hardcore bodybuilders who are misguided enough to believe that they have a chance to compete against the outright genetic freaks that now dominate bodybuilding competition, just about anybody else in this country can produce nearly all of the potential benefits of proper exercise without spending much if anything in excess of about twenty dollars. You can build both a chinning bar and a pair of parallel dip bars for a total cost of only a few dollars, and those two exercises, chins and dips, if properly performed, will stimulate muscular growth in your upper body and arms that will eventually lead to muscular size and strength that is very close to your potential.
Adding full squats, eventually leading up to one-legged full squats, and one-legged calf raises, will do much the same thing for your legs and hips. Using this very simple routine, when you get strong enough to perform about ten repetitions of one-armed chins with each arm, your arms will leave very little to be desired. Or, instead, you can do what many thousands of others are now doing and piss away thousands of dollars and years of largely wasted effort while producing far less results. The choice is yours. One of the best pair of arms that I ever saw on a man belonged to a guy that I knew about fifty years ago in New York, and he never performed any sort of exercise apart from chins and dips, and damned few of them."
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Post by stormshadow on Nov 10, 2017 16:11:41 GMT
I would add one humble comment. You don't need to be able to do one arm chins for this to be effective.
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Post by TexasRanger on Nov 10, 2017 17:01:51 GMT
Storm -
Great stuff...I've posted this quote on a several sites and even sent it to my kids, etc, suggesting that they don't need to make exercise complicated and try this method or that. A few basics will take you a long, long way especially if you work things properly. I've shared the story of the trainees at a SuperSlow gym where I did my ~30 something day trial with who only do three exercises...chins, dips and leg presses...and looked fantastic.
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Post by Mr Average on Nov 10, 2017 18:55:59 GMT
Shouldn't Arthur Jones said "Roided Freaks" instead of "Genetic Freaks" after all that is what he used to promote and sell his machines. If Arthur Jones knew anything about exercise, he would know that you do not need to buy any exercise equipment to have a decent workout. Why buy dip bars, when you can use 2 dining chairs, why buy a chinning bar when you can just use the dining table or a broomstick across the dining chairs. After all most people have a table and chairs at home.
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Post by Whiffet on Nov 10, 2017 19:06:45 GMT
Good post. I think Jones was pretty much right with that.
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Post by fatjake on Nov 10, 2017 21:46:29 GMT
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Post by Mr Average on Nov 11, 2017 1:07:04 GMT
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Post by DDH on Nov 11, 2017 5:24:28 GMT
I posted this before in the past,yrs ago probably 20 yrs ago there was this one guy who did nothing but V bar dips and pull ups, bodyweight only and had one of the best upper body development I have ever seen in my life,he told me that's all he did for his upperbody, played a lot of basketball, so he didn't do anything squatting wise for his lower body,he said he didn't feel the need to add weight to his dips and pull ups because he said he didn't want to risk the chance of injuring himself,that proved to me the value of bw pull ups and dips how valuable they can be for upperbody development.
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Nov 12, 2017 4:50:59 GMT
I have always maintained, and have posted on several occasions, that I felt pushups and chinups were the kings of upper body development, that they go together like yin and yang. Those two exercises form the core of upper body development and all other exercises are in addition to.
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Post by BigBruvOfEnglandUK on Nov 12, 2017 5:52:33 GMT
I had far more success with dips than I did with pushups.
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Post by BLS on Nov 12, 2017 15:27:24 GMT
I had far more success with dips than I did with pushups. Similar here. I utilize both but overall I find myself doing far more dips than push ups. |
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Post by mr potatohead on Nov 12, 2017 17:39:28 GMT
I had far more success with dips than I did with pushups. Similar here. I utilize both but overall I find myself doing far more dips than push ups. Me too. I only do a pushup occasionally now, but I typically do a dip from one to three times per day. As I've mentioned, I do one and work it until I'm done, so that there is constant tension during that one pushup, dip, pullup, etc. It's not "one rep" because there are no repetitions, although it is dynamic, not static, moving my legs into different positions, twisting, pausing (momentary isometric) for holds, pulsing up and down, side to side, etc. I don't lock out @ the top and I don't go below 90* @ the elbows for the dip. I also like to bring my legs up to press against the crossbar of my dip station (a tall walker) while resisting that downward pull w/ my upper body against the dip station to feel additional crunch in my midsection. This also puts my upper body @ a different angle - leaning more forward - and feels like it's tensing more of some muscles that aren't as tensed in a normal dip effort. |
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Post by Mr Average on Nov 12, 2017 17:43:40 GMT
Well I can only dip as often as the wife lets me!
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Post by BLS on Nov 14, 2017 16:24:38 GMT
Similar here. I utilize both but overall I find myself doing far more dips than push ups. Me too. I only do a pushup occasionally now, but I typically do a dip from one to three times per day. As I've mentioned, I do one and work it until I'm done, so that there is constant tension during that one pushup, dip, pullup, etc. It's not "one rep" because there are no repetitions, although it is dynamic, not static, moving my legs into different positions, twisting, pausing (momentary isometric) for holds, pulsing up and down, side to side, etc. I don't lock out @ the top and I don't go below 90* @ the elbows for the dip. I also like to bring my legs up to press against the crossbar of my dip station (a tall walker) while resisting that downward pull w/ my upper body against the dip station to feel additional crunch in my midsection. This also puts my upper body @ a different angle - leaning more forward - and feels like it's tensing more of some muscles that aren't as tensed in a normal dip effort. I usually do them in sets of anywhere from 20 - 40 reps. The ROM is extremely limited, which I feel is part of the reason I've never had issues with my elbows. During a set I'll alternate between leaning a bit forward and a bit back to hit different areas. I'm talking a slight lean though. Nothing excessive. |
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Post by gruntbrain on Nov 14, 2017 16:37:14 GMT
I may try the dip/pullup combo as a superset again but with limited ROM
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