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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 16:54:07 GMT
I've found surgical tubing deteriorates pretty fast. I'm in the UK and I don't know if it is to do with our climate, but they quickly develop stress marks and not long thereafter micro tears.
I prefer steel now. My perfect set up would be the hook handles with steel cables.
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Post by justregularguy on Jan 11, 2019 18:08:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2019 20:52:37 GMT
The tubing bands are definitely more versatile. I've never had one snap because I check them carefully. I've been using the steel expander recently for convenience because I am lazy at making up new bands.
My brother suspects I wear them out faster by using explosive pulls.
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Post by Bob50 on Jan 11, 2019 22:16:45 GMT
Hi Justregularguy, 1. I mentioned dynamic self-resistance with the full range of motion 2. We covered isometrics in several threads here. Please check and maybe you change your opinion.
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Post by gruntbrain on Jan 11, 2019 22:30:31 GMT
Thick flat resistance bands work with the HOOK . But I don't know if they're whiffet-proof
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2019 8:29:11 GMT
I know many people go for years without the surgical tubing bands snapping. I may make up some more, but the lazy way by just knotting them together. They are great -- just use common sense and inspect them before use.
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Post by justregularguy on Jan 12, 2019 9:38:06 GMT
With a belt ? So you change the range you're operating in from time to time. That doesn't sound fun at all. I would much rather just stretch some rubber. I find it awesome that you can put pretty much any resistance band on the hook. Other expanders only work with special cables and those aren't even very good. I'm surprised no big fitness company has tried to copy Bruce's idea
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Post by macky on Jan 13, 2019 6:38:06 GMT
Some years ago when I was using strands a lot more, I ordered The Hook and snapped a couple of loops doubling them up, in other words, overstretching them. Bruce replaced them immediately without question, even after I informed him that I had misused them.
I can't remember where the first snap hit me, but the second hit me in the neck, just under the jaw.
I've never had springs snap. York turns out a springset with plastic covers on them. At an average arm-span, the springs are about 30lbs each. That will keep you busy for a long time.
Fatman and me did some tests on Lifeline cables, and found them to be way below advertised poundages. The reason was determined later by Mr Brady, that Lifeline uses a measuring method that although logical, is different from everyone else, and has caused confusion and over-estimation of pull-weights achieved, even by notable strength athletes.
At any rate, Lifeline's quality of its cables varies from good to absolute rubbish, and my three Orange cables all snapped within six months of estimated normal usage. Two of the breakages were at the handles, and the third was right in the middle of the cable. There was no warning, no visible deterioration.
The hits were over the thumbs for the first two, and around the wrist for the third. All took over a week to recover normal use.
Especially after the neck hit, I wore goggles, and would recommend anyone using strands, especially cables, to wear them. It like a car seatbelt, it's no good putting it on after you crash. One hit in the eye and that's half your vision gone.
There were other more serious accounts of hits (handle in the side of the face, for example) than mine at the time. One of the trainers had often broken springs as well.
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Post by macky on Jan 13, 2019 6:42:21 GMT
"one specific position and angle" thing re isometrics has long been disproved now, especially by the 30-30-30 hold protocol as notified by Silverlooks, originated by Ken Hutchins, and promoted by Drew Baye.
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Post by justregularguy on Jan 13, 2019 13:45:47 GMT
Wow what a class act
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 16:47:20 GMT
Bruce is extremely good with customer service. Probably too generous!
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 13, 2019 16:48:35 GMT
Some years ago when I was using strands a lot more, I ordered The Hook and snapped a couple of loops doubling them up, in other words, overstretching them. Bruce replaced them immediately without question, even after I informed him that I had misused them. dumb shit.
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Post by ganesha on Jan 13, 2019 19:13:54 GMT
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Post by Bruce Tackett on Jan 13, 2019 19:46:24 GMT
Is there an end in sight to this freaking thread?
As I've said before, I never hear back from 99% of those who have ordered my equipment. Again, once in a Blue Moon I hear from someone who has snapped a band or two, and I just replace them free of charge, including shipping. I can't remember when the last time was. I'm pretty sure I didn't hear from anyone last year.
If there was a way surgical tubing could be made as a continuous loop, that would be a godsend, but surgical tubing is manufactured by extrusion, so it has to come in lengths, and there has to be a way to connect the ends together. The way I connect the ends is as safe and secure as I can possibly make them, but, unfortunately, when it comes to bands, there are just no guarantees. The only guarantee you get from me is that I will replace any Sierra Equipment that fails through normal use. I don't have to worry about ever replacing anything I make except for the %$%$#@ bands.
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Post by mr potatohead on Jan 13, 2019 19:47:46 GMT
I wonder if covering the bands with the legs from panty hose would help keep snapped bands from hurting & give these guys some peace of mind?
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